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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 13:13:29 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #794
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Linux-Misc Digest #794, Volume #2 Wed, 21 Sep 94 13:13:29 EDT
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Contents:
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Pro C compiler, Where? (John)
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Re: Word Processor for Linux? (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
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Re: Which graphics card is "best" for running L (Karl Keyte)
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Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support (Alan Cox)
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Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (nick leroy)
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Re: DOOM linux with TERM (C. van Rij)
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Re: Word Processor for Linux? (Grant Edwards)
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Re: Word Processor for Linux? (Dan Newcombe)
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Re: PLIP config problem....Crynwr Drivers (Alan Cox)
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Re: Time Screws up w/ Linux (Peter Moulder)
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NFS server implementation (Tom. Adams 529-7860)
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Re: XFree86 patch for DOOM 320x200 doublescan (Jerod Tufte)
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Re: Linux on 40,000 FREE(ish) CD's (sauron@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu)
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Re: UNIX on PC machines (Gerard van Draanen)
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From: jhs@cybernetics.net (John)
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Subject: Pro C compiler, Where?
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 19:20:31 GMT
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Does anyone out there know of a Pro C compiler for Linux? While I am on
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the subject, does anyone know of a public version of oracle or any dbms
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availzble for Linux? Thanks in advance. -John.
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From: dlj0@Lehigh.EDU (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
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Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux?
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:51:25 GMT
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In article <newcombe.740.00B8A189@aa.csc.peachnet.edu>, newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:
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>In article <1994Sep20.035234.23804@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
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>
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>>I want somethat is either WYSI(exactly)WYG or something like LaTeX.
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>
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>Oh no....here come the religious wars again.
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>
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Let's just say that EZ is not for everyone. Fine. It is WYSIWYG to a very
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large extent, certainly enough for memos, letters, etc. Grant, use what
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you want. Don't dump on the work of a very good team of programmers who
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have produced a very nice package, just because it doesn't print page
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breaks and footnotes for you.
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>--
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>Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
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>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion
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--
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David L. Johnson dlj0@lehigh.edu or
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Department of Mathematics dlj0@chern.math.lehigh.edu
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Lehigh University
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14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
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Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174 (610) 828-3708
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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:20:57 +0200
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From: kkeyte@esoc.bitnet (Karl Keyte)
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Reply-To: kkeyte@esoc.bitnet
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Subject: Re: Which graphics card is "best" for running L
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In article 6053@NJITGW.NJIT.EDU, ken@helios.njit.edu (ken ng) writes:
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>I hope this does not start too much of a flame war, but I am trying to put
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>together a Linux system, and would like to know which of the many video
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>boards would be the best to buy. Right now I'm between an ATI Ultra Pro
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>and a Number 9 GX64 card. Anyone else have any recommendations?
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I'm sure the #9 is excellent too, but I can only say that I've been very happy
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indeed with my ATI GUP (2MB VRAM, VLB). It's been 100% compatible with
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everything I've done under both DOS/Windows and Linux. I run it at 1024x768
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in Windows and 1120x832 (yes, really) in Linux.
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Karl
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=========================================================================
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Vitrociset S.p.A. Tel : +(49) 6151 902041
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European Space Agency Fax : +(49) 6151 904041
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64293 Darmstadt, Germany e-Mail: KKEYTE@ESOC.BITNET
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:30:10 GMT
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In article <35huou$4ks@nkosi.well.com> gonzo@magnet.mednet.net (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes:
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>like it. FWIW, I have GPLed some of my own software before, but I think the
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>author has the right to say "derivatives of this software must *never*
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>be GPLed" just like the FSF says "derivatives of GPLed software must
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>*always* be GPLed".
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Unless you explicitly permit a license that is GPL or less restrictive than
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the GPL then people can't GPL your material. For example if you said
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'May not be used for commercial purposes' then it couldn't get mixed with
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GPL'd code. Other variants I've see are 'May not be distributed under any
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license other than this one' - which is close to what the GPL does save
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that it permits you to extract freer than GPL components that are
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clearly seperable (eg a PD module in a Linux kernel).
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: nick leroy <nick.leroy@mixcom.mixcom.com>
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Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help.
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Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 02:42:43 GMT
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In <35dilq$g6r@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> exp109@modcomp.physik.uni-kiel.de (A. Rohde) writes:
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>|> Right now I am running under Os/2 but if these tools are much faster under
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>|> Linux I am prepared to switch.
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>|>
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>|> Also is Ipe, the drawing package ported under Linux? What about Idraw?
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>Idraw is available
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Other drawing packages are also available...
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>12 megs RAM are absolutely sufficient. A good configured Linux on a 8MB box has
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>4MB free with X11 running. I don't feel happy with 8MB under OS/2.
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Yes. I can confirm this. I've been running with 8M for a *long* time.
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If you start doing compiles, etc., it becomes painful, but other than that
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it works quite well.
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-Nick
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--
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+--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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| /`-_ Nicholas R LeRoy | Linux -- What *nix was meant to be. |
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|{ }/ nick.leroy@mixcom.com | gcc -- What C was meant to be. |
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| \ */ Camtronics, LTD, PO Box 950 | Escape the Gates of Hell with |
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| |___| Hartland, WI 53029 | The choice of a GNU generation... |
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+--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,comp.os.linux.help
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From: cvrij@cs.vu.nl (C. van Rij)
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Subject: Re: DOOM linux with TERM
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 11:08:02 GMT
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damianf@wpi.edu (Damian Frank) writes:
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>: man tredir
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>: RTFM
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>Yes, I'd forgotten that. It MIGHT work;
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Won't work; Was tested in the past.
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Something to do with the way Doom uses sockets.
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Casey
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--
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Casey Ryder Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam ++312503-16844 CET
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http://www.cs.vu.nl/~cvrij The MultiMedia Experience
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From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
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Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux?
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 03:52:34 GMT
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FEARNLCJ@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU wrote:
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: Has no one tried ez from the AUIS package (auis63LO-wp.tgz)? I realize
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: it's only 1/8th of the whole AUIS system, but Linux Journal even ran an
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: article on it. So I got frustrated with this thread and d/l it from
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: sunsite. It looks like a fancy word processor.
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Which is why people have problems with it. It _looks_ like a fancy
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WYSIWYG WP, but it isn't really WYSIWYG (it's pretty similar to Slate
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if you've ever tried that under Unix, or MS Word a couple years ago).
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I want somethat is either WYSI(exactly)WYG or something like LaTeX.
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If it's going to be WYSIWYG I want the screen to look exactly like the
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page (within the resolution of the display). I want headers, footers,
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footnotes, linebreaks, hyphenation, fonts, kerning, ligatures, and
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alignment to reflect what the printed page looks like -- there should
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be _no_ need for a print-preview function.
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If you've got to do print previews, then you might as well use LaTeX.
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TeX does a better job for general typsetting than any WYSIWYG
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package I've used (Including Frame, Interleaf, Microsoft Word,
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WriteNow, and a couple Mac DTP packages).
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When it comes to equations, nothing else even comes close to TeX
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output and I can typeset equations faster in LaTeX than I can in
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Frame.
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Other than LaTex, I like Frame (though it's a bit bloated) on Unix and
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WriteNow on a Mac (IMHO the best WYSIWYG WP I've seen -- it's small,
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fast and has the all the right features for writing memos, letters,
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and short reports). Don't ask what I use under MS-DOS 'cause homey
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don't play that.
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--
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Grant Edwards |Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT for
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Rosemount Inc. |QUICHE!!
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grante@rosemount.com |
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From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
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Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux?
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:03:24 UNDEFINED
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In article <35ni0d$127b@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> dlj0@Lehigh.EDU (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes:
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>>>I want somethat is either WYSI(exactly)WYG or something like LaTeX.
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>>
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>>Oh no....here come the religious wars again.
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>Let's just say that EZ is not for everyone. Fine. It is WYSIWYG to a very
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>large extent, certainly enough for memos, letters, etc. Grant, use what
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>you want. Don't dump on the work of a very good team of programmers who
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>have produced a very nice package, just because it doesn't print page
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>breaks and footnotes for you.
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Hey...I was just groaning at the onset of another TeX vs WYSIWYG flame ware.
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Personally, I like ez...it's nice, easy, and actually runs at a decent speed
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on my 386!!!
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-Dan
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--
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Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: PLIP config problem....Crynwr Drivers
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 11:05:50 GMT
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In article <35ks1n$bn7@crl.crl.com> cfrancis@crl.com (Christopher L Francis) writes:
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>I am attempting to set up a PLIP connection between my Linux box
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>and a 286. I got a good cable (2 actually) which conforms to the
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>specs, have got my Linux box configured and rebuild the kernel.
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>However, on the DOS (ugh!) box, I am attempting to use the Crynwr
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>plip driver on irq 5, soft io addr 0x7e, hardware io addr 0x278,
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>ethernet id 31:32:37:2e:31:2e. Each type I try to ping my linux box,
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>i get "cannot resolve host's hardware address". Any suggestions or
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>places to refer me to?
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1. Linux 1.1.8 or higher is needed to talk to the DOS plip driver
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2. 31:32:37:2e:31:2e isn't a legal ethernet source address (is it Russ 8))
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: 930494@edna.swin.edu.au (Peter Moulder)
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Subject: Re: Time Screws up w/ Linux
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Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:55:52 GMT
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Vaughn Adams (adamsvm@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu) wrote:
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: I have had this problem for a while and never bothered to resolve it.
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: Now that I need cron, I need to get it fixd. Everytime I boot Linux, my i
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: clock screws up. THe time is always off, but the date is ok. This doesn't
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: happen with any other OS that I have run on the computer. I am runnin
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: Slackware 1.2 with a couple of dirrerent kernels. it seems to be kernel
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: independant.
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Read through /usr/lib/zoneinfo/time.doc.
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Your date display is probably assuming that the CMOS time is UTC, rather
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than local time.
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If this is the case, you can either
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a) tell linux that the CMOS time already is local time by having
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/sbin/clock -s
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in one of your rc scripts (eg /etc/rc.d/rc.S); or
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b) set your CMOS clock to the correct UTC (~= GMT).
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It's also possible that you have a TZ environment variable set, or that your
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rc scripts aren't calling clock at all. (I'm not sure what happens in the
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latter case.)
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Peter.
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From: tadams@wedge (Tom. Adams 529-7860)
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Subject: NFS server implementation
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 03:15:21 GMT
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Reply-To: tadams@sbctri.sbc.com
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I've an idea for implementing filesystems via a local NFS server.
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The slackware tcpip/System/nfsd server seems to be a read-only server.
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Is there a full server implementation out there?
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--
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Tom Adams
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SBC Technology Resources Inc.
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From: jet@b62528.student.cwru.edu (Jerod Tufte)
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Subject: Re: XFree86 patch for DOOM 320x200 doublescan
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 15:33:21 GMT
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Dick Streefland (dicks@tasking.nl) wrote:
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: Peter Bollerman (bollerma@math.ruu.nl) wrote:
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: --> In article Jow@tasking.nl, dicks@tasking.nl (Dick Streefland) writes:
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: --> [%]I have made a small patch to the XFree86-2.1.1 release which
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: --> [%]implements a "doublescan" flag that may be added to a mode line
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: --> [%]in Xconfig, just like the "interlace" flag.
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: --> Ok, but where can I find the source to patch it to?
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: I got the XFree86-2.1 source from the Snow-2.1 CD, and I
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: patched it to version 2.1.1 with the following patch:
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: ftp.win.tue.nl:pub/XFree86/2.1-2.1.1.diff.gz
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: Perhaps, the 2.1 source is available there also.
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: --> Also, before I start building, how do I find out if I have a programmable
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: --> clock generator?
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: You have a programmable clock generator when you are using a
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: Clocks "icd2061a"
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: or
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: Clockprog "....."
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: line in your Xconfig file.
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: --> How do I program it?
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: XFree86 will do it for you :-)
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: --
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: Dick Streefland //// Tasking Software BV
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: dicks@tasking.nl (@ @) The Netherlands
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: ------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------
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would you be willing to upload this patched server to sunsite or
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some such so those of us who also have the card but don't have the
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disk space to compile X can try it out? thanks,
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Jerod
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--
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WARNING: In case of rapture, this computer will be manned.
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Drink Jolt!, All the sugar and twice the caffeine. PopUlating the World
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Check out BruceNet at http://b62528.student.cwru.edu/ "Groovy!" --Ash
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From: sauron@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu
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Subject: Re: Linux on 40,000 FREE(ish) CD's
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Date: 21 Sep 94 10:31:37 CST
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In article <ann-18457.779640216@cs.cornell.edu}, Lasermoon Info Desk <info@lasermoon.co.uk} writes:
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} []
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} Linux Recognition by Major Magazine
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}
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} PC-PLUS, is the first of UK's leading PC magazines to give Linux the
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} recognition it deserves and is not only devot
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}
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} To celibrate this, Lasermoon will give a discount of 10% off the price
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What is the difference beween the version being given away and
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the proffessional release? What is the price of the prfessional release?
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Mail To Printf@cix.compulink.co.uk as I read that account most often.
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Ian Stirling.
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From: gerard@stout.UUCP (Gerard van Draanen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.dos-under-unix,comp.unix.xenix.sco
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Subject: Re: UNIX on PC machines
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Date: 21 Sep 94 11:04:02 GMT
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Reply-To: gerard@sbu.stork.nl (Gerard van Draanen)
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Firs, a reaction to Brian Talley..., now by Follow up instead of mail..
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N.B. Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
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Subject: Re: UNIX on PC machines
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To: btalley@mc.fin.xerox.com (Brian Talley)
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From: Gerard van Draanen <stout!gerard@relay.NL.net>
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In-Reply-To: <9409151502.AA14839@bignotes.mc.fin.xerox.com>; from "Brian Talley" at Sep 15, 94 8:02 am
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Message-Id: <9409160905.AA01085@sbu.stork.nl>
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Hello Brian,
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I wrote..
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> >Now, if only a functional equivalent of SCO Foxbase (when is FoxPro due ?)
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> >would be available on Linux, together with a proper MS-Dos emulator,
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> >then I would seriously consider the move.
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>
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On which your reply..
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> Linux can run SCO binaries now with the iBCS-2 kernel patches. Have you tried
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> running SCO's FoxBase under Linux yet? It should work, unless the version
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> you're using isn't iBCS-2 compliant.
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Your magic words here are SHOULD work. I don't feel like installing a lot of
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stuff (may take me weeks, because of my regular work, and because I can not
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(yet) afford to lose the working set of programs under Xenix)
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IF
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there's the odd chance that it just doesn't work.
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Although I really don't mind giving input to problem solving, and doing some
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tests, I don't want to be the first one in the Lions-pit. My current position
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just doesn't allow loosing lots of time in getting workable software.
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So... still hesitant....
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Anyway... what's a iBCS-2 kernel patch, and how would I know if 'my' version
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is (not) iBCS-2 compliant ?
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The idea is that I DO like the 'cheap but full-featured' setup, and there
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does seem to be a good support for problems in Linux, but I definitly
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DO NOT like to be having to spend a lot of time on installation and patching.
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If at all possible I prefer to use a 'stable' version, and then, after a while
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do a 'frog-leap' to the latest available versions.
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I know that within the not-to-far-away future I'll probably have to change
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from the Xenix (stable, understandable, supported and accepted by many) to
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some flavour of Unix. This will probably be mainly because of
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Graphics, and NFS network connections.
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I just havn't made up my mind yet on what flavour to choose.
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SCO Unix comes out quite expensive (in comparison), and
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Linux comes out quite promising (but not 'guaranteed to run').
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Maybe when I find out more details, and hear some reports on actual facts,
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then this will give me more positive selection criteria.
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And also...
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In article <mldCwEAnM.F3q@netcom.com> mld@netcom.com (Matthew Deter) writes:
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>Tony Burzio (aetc@nic.cerf.net) wrote:
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>
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>: They are if you have DOS emulation... :-(
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>If you need Unix, run Unix. If you need DOS, run DOS. If you need
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>BOTH it's time to port your app.
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^^^^
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There's probably always a valid reason IN YOUR SITUATION not to be needing
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both OS's at the same time.
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For ME, there's a good reason to DO want this.
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One of the simpler reasons is that some 'of the shelf' applications are
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simply only available under DOSbut their OUTPUT can be used to good use
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under Unix.
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Also, when I'm working on one of the unix applications, then someone may come
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up to me with a DOS specific question. I'd hate to have to leave my work,
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reboot under dos etc. . Also, I don't have various machines available to me
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to perform these separate taks. (Certainly not when I'm 'on the road').
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>...it's more headache than it's worth. Given the cost of my time, I...
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My idea is that once it's properly installed, there really isn't much of
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a problem.
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My hope is that switching to Linux for more X and NFS facilities doesn't
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cripple me in the DOS area, nor in the use of the applications that I already
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have...
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>While I am no fan of the PC non-architecture, and I'm sure you are
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>right about the hardware device mapping probs, I find that both Linux
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>and FreeBSD run like champs on the PC almost all the time. Especially
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>if you don't have a Taiwanese cheapo motherboard.
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>
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>For a test, anon ftp to ftp.cdrom.com. It's running FreeBSD with
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>64Meg (soon to be 128 Meg, I think) and it does an excellent job of
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>things.
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Another contestant to Linux ?
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>If one inteneds to use a PC for any reason, one must be familiar with
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>jumper settings, DMA access, IRQs and all the rest. .....
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I agree, in order to do proper installations you simply have to know
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about the fine-print in you computer manual..
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And the PC arena does not really seem to be such a mess after all.
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It just takes a lot of background information to get things right.
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The net is probably a very good source to get information from people
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that have solved the problem already....
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