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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 10:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #881
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Linux-Misc Digest #881, Volume #2 Wed, 5 Oct 94 10:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Michael_Nelson)
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Linux and Houdini-Macs (Damir Smitlener)
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Help w/SB16 SCSI2 & linux (Donald R Lloyd)
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Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Hans de Graaff)
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Re: kermit on Linux CD - violates copyrights (Adam J. Richter)
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Problem with static route table (Hien Pham)
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Re: Cirrus Logic 5428 ! (Rudie Vantoever)
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Re: Bash Arrays[?] (Kevin K. Lewis)
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Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) (Matt Weber)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Piet Ruyssinck)
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final test (News)
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final test (news@sparc.eunet.si)
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Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN) (Mr D R Barlow)
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Re: Slackware Pro v2.0 old? (zachary brown)
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Wanted: True color pix-viewer (Arjan van Oeveren)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (J.J. Paijmans)
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Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Nisse Husberg)
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SB_PRO does not sound like 4W/channel..
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Re: Hmmm (Geert Uytterhoeven)
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
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Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 14:02:09 GMT
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quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com (Daniel Quinlan) writes:
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>>>> The specs are lying. The Panasonic is faster than the Mitsumi.
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>>> What evidence do you have for that ?
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>Teemu Kilpivuori <teekilpi@euroni.cs.utu.fi> writes:
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>> Yeah,what. As I understand, Panasonic doesn't use IRQ nor DMA, only
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>> software polling, which makes it slower,and it causes more CPU-load
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>> than Mitsumi with IRQ and DMA enabled. I have tested both drives,
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>> and seen that myself, which is why I bought a Mitsumi.
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>Unless I am mistaken, that isn't the case.
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>Under Linux, Mitsumi drives don't require an IRQ although they will
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>use one and don't use DMA even if the drive does support it.
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>Did you test it under Linux or another operating system?
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And to think.... SCSI is made soooooo obsolete by these proprietary
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CD-ROM interfaces........ ;)
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: nelson@seahunt.imat.com (Michael_Nelson)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 13:10:26 GMT
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Reply-To: nelson@seahunt.imat.com
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Spencer PriceNash (spencer@montego.umcc.umich.edu) wrote:
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-> In the case of becoming very clever, you could use TeX, but I don't
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-> think you wanna hear that.
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Well, there _is_ an intermediate step: LaTeX. It seems to me to be
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fairly easy to use, compared to TeX.
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- Michael -
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--
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Michael Nelson nelson@seahunt.imat.com
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San Francisco, CA FAX: 1-415-621-2608
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From: damir@is.net (Damir Smitlener)
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Subject: Linux and Houdini-Macs
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Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 18:01:42 -0500
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Anyone tried to install Linux on a Mac with a Houdini (486) board? If this
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is possible, all my troubles would be over.
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--
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damir smitlener
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gt7092d@prism.gatech.edu
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damir@is.net
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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Help w/SB16 SCSI2 & linux
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:35:48 -0400
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I've got a 330 meg SCSI drive and an NEC SCSI CD-ROM connected to
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an SB16 SCSI2 (at least until there's a Linux driver for the AHA2940
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that's currently sitting on my shelf waiting to become useful). I'm
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booting DOS from a 730 meg WD IDE drive on a PCI enhanced IDE controller,
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and want to dedicate the SCSI drive to Linux. I'm trying to install
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Linux from the Slackware Linux Toolkit (August) CD-Rom.
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I boot the install disks using the SCSI kernel and can get the system
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set up & installed if I enter RAMDISK aha152x=0x140,12,7,1 at the
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boot: prompt. Everything runs smoothly; install goes fine, boot disk
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created, LILO installed with the above aha152x line as an append; but
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I can't boot the system except from the install disks. When I boot LILO
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(either from HD or floppy), I get LI01010101... on into infinity. (Err..
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it might be 101010, not 010101... it's whichever doesn't mean it's a CRC
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error). When I try to boot from the boot disk I created, my drives
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can't be found and I never even get to a prompt.
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--
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Don Lloyd don@chopin.udel.edu "Mmmmmm.... floor pie."
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Stuck using a PC, but still an Amiga guy at heart...
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From: graaff@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
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Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 07:30:44 GMT
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In article <36sjdj$7cm@sun.cais.com>, Don Rubin <rubin@setinc.com> wrote:
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>I use XRn and it leaves alot to be desired. Has anyone built
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>xvNews for Linux? I would be interested in hearing about any
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>other X newsreaders too.
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xvnews 2.2.1 compiles on Linux without problems (in fact, xvnews is
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currently being developed on Linux).
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Hans
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--
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Hans de Graaff J.J.deGraaff@TWI.TUDelft.NL
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Delft University of Technology Department of Information Systems
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=======================================================================
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<a href=http://www.twi.tudelft.nl/People/J.J.deGraaff.html>click me</a>
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From: adam@adam (Adam J. Richter)
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Subject: Re: kermit on Linux CD - violates copyrights
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 16:56:39 GMT
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In article <36otjk$584@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
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Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
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>To CD-ROM vendors, ftp maintainers, etc., there is a "discussion" in
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>comp.protocols.kermit.misc that if you provide kermit on your CD
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>or ftp-site, you have to contact Columbia University to get a
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>permission to distribute it.
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>Otherwise, you are violating their policy.
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Yggdrasil long ago removed kermit from Plug-and-Play Linux
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for this reason. I believe that the other Linux CD makers have done
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the same with their CD's.
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--
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Adam J. Richter Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
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(408) 261-6630 "Free Software For The Rest of Us."
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From: hienpham@csulb.edu (Hien Pham)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Problem with static route table
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 18:06:08 GMT
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Hi everyone,
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I have a problem with networking my Linux box. I have Yddrasil Summer 94
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Linux 1.1.0 #84 with NET-2 running. I have set up my static route table with
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local ip address of 128.178.10.1 and 128.178.10.2 for my Linux boxes with
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netmask 255.255.255.0 and broadcast addr 128.178.10.255. The system is
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on the same datalink. My local network is 128.178.10.0. My first
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problem is "arp -a" returns nothing and when I execute "netstat -rn" I got
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the error "route: unsupported address family 2560 !". Any ideas ? My
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ifconfig shows that my NIC card is running with arp up as configured.
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Moreover, my xserver can't seem to run remote x-clients. I keep getting
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the message "can connect to calvin:0.0". Thanks in advance for any advice.
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--
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% Henry Pham %%% Jet Propulsion Laboratory %
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% Senior Software%%% 4800 Oak Grove Drive %
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% Engineer %%% Pasadena, CA 91109 %
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% %%% E-Mail: hienpham@beach.csulb.edu %
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From: Rudie.Vantoever@prgbbs.idn.nl (Rudie Vantoever)
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Date: 04 Oct 94 22:06:01
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Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 5428 !
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Looks there are many problems with Cirrus 5428 cards
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ru> From: rutger@arrakis.kub.nl ()
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ru> Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:23:21 GMT
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ru> Organization: Tilburg University, The Netherlands
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Rutger ( rutger@arrakis.kub.nl ) wrote:
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ru> Richard Stone (rstone@infi.net) wrote:
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ru> : Liu Chen (lchen@prang.ee.nus.sg) wrote:
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: : -> My computer is using Cirrus Logic 5428 Display Card!
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: : -> Anyone out there knows how to set the "Xconfig" file in Linux in order
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ru> to execute Xwindows successfully? : : Me too!
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ru> : I've seen enough requests for this that I'll post my (working)
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ru> Xconfig file : for the CLGD-5428 to anonymous ftp on my home system in
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ru> /pub/linux.
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ru> Here's my Xconfig file: I've got the CLGD-5426 card. The Xconfig file
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ru> is working although I don't get a completely stable screen...
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I use 'Xconfig' as shown below. I use a HK brewed VGA card with a 5428
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and a NEC Mulitisync II monitor. Screen is stable, vertical timing from monitor
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is not 100 %.
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You can use 'clgd5426' also.
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========================== cut ========================================
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RGBPath "/usr/X386/lib/X11/rgb"
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FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
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/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
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Keyboard
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AutoRepeat 500 5
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ServerNumLock
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LeftAlt Meta
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RightAlt Compose
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ScrollLock ModeLock
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Microsoft "/dev/mouse"
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BaudRate 1200
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vga256
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Virtual 800 600
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ViewPort 0 0
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Modes "800x600" "640x480"
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Chipset "clgd5428"
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Displaysize 800 600
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# Clocks 25.23 28.32 41.16 36.08 31.50 39.19 45.08 49.87 64.98 72.16 75 80.01
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vga2
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Virtual 800 600
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ViewPort 0 0
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Modes "800x600" "640x480"
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ModeDB
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# name clock horizontal timing vertical timing flags
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"640x480" 28 640 676 776 812 480 480 485 505
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"752x564" 36 752 788 916 952 564 564 569 594
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"800x600" 40 800 864 1000 1056 600 600 605 631
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Rudie van 't Oever
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--
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| Internet: Rudie.Vantoever@prgbbs.idn.nl
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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From: lewikk@grasshopper.aud.alcatel.com (Kevin K. Lewis)
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Subject: Re: Bash Arrays[?]
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Date: 04 Oct 1994 17:54:07 GMT
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In article <36n9f1$n5o@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> djt1@aloha.cc.columbia.edu (David J Topper) writes:
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Greetings from the exasperation society,
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I'm wondering about the compatibility of BASH with the KORN SHELL.
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In particular, I'm trying to access individual components in an
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array.
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[...]
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won't work either. Does BASH use some other method? Is that
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method portable to sh, csh, and/or ksh?
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Bash does not have arrays. I've heard rumors of Bash supporting
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arrays in the future, though.
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Thanks,
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--
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Kevin K. Lewis | My opinions may be unreasonable
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lewikk@aud.alcatel.com | but such is the voice of inspiration
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From: mattw@meaddata.com (Matt Weber)
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Subject: Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X )
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:15:43 GMT
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gdb and try it within emacs. You don't need X for emacs and it will show
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your code in another section of the screen. The only thing I miss at home
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that I have at home that I have at work is purify (memory bounds checker).
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Even that can be simulated with some of the development malloc's floating
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around. Right now I'm trying to get debug_malloc to work. This is at
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oak.oakland.edu but I forget the directory. It's something like
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pub/unix/c/devel/debug-malloc.tar.Z
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--
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#########################################################################
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Matt Weber <mattw@meaddata.com>
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CSC Consulting Ph: (513) 768-4440, FAX: (513) 768-4446
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255 East Fifth St. 27th Floor
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Cincinnati, Ohio 45202
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From: pruyss@nessy.rug.ac.be (Piet Ruyssinck)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 10:08:07 GMT
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Nick Kralevich (nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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: Greetings.
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: I'm attempting to find a word processor for Linux.
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stop attempting, install TeX/LaTeX
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: One that will allow me to create reports
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LaTeX does that
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: and type up documents.
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LaTeX does that
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: So far I've been using Jove
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That's an editor...
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: which is useful as a text editor, but not as a word processor.
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... as you've discovered.
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: I'm looking for somthing that will allow
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: for different fonts, along with text formatting.
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Then you need LaTeX
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: I don't think emacs is what I'm looking for.
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That's also an editor.
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: I've heard of TeX, but I'm not really sure what it is, and I'm
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: hesitating to install the 14 disks it takes for the binary
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: distribution.
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Stop hesitating.
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: So, what is a good word processor for Linux or Unix in general?
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LaTeX
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: Preferably somthing that is freeware or shareware.
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LaTeX is freeware
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: What do you use?
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LaTeX
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Hope this helps,
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--
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| Piet RUYSSINCK Piet.Ruyssinck@rug.ac.be |
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| Department of Data Analysis +32 9 264 4733 |
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| University of Ghent (RUG) |
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| Krijgslaan 281, building S9 (ARC), B-9000 Ghent, Belgium |
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From: news@rsc3.hermes.si (News)
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Subject: final test
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Date: 05 Oct 1994 11:53:07 GMT
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If this works, I'll stop, ok?
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Bozzo
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From: news@sparc.eunet.si
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Subject: final test
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 12:55:44 +0100
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test
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From: xuuah@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr D R Barlow)
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Subject: Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN)
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 13:06:26 +0100
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In article <1994Oct3.182132.645@flapjack.ieunet.ie>,
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nick@flapjack.ieunet.ie (Nick Hilliard) writes:
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>Andrew Berkley (ajb@wonder.resnet.cornell.edu) wrote:
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>: (try running sasteroids from a telnet :). But, since SVGALIB needs access
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>: to /dev/console (new versions) which is a link to a tty0-6, you need
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>: someway of letting it access them. One solution is to make tty? world
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>: readable/writeable/etc, but that's just wrong... The real solution, which
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>: most SVGALIB install programs do (witness zgv) is to install the program
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>: with owner _root_, and set the 'Run this program as owner' bit on the
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>: program.
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>: chmod a+s FileName
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>This is *NOT* a solution. This is *DANGEROUS* and *STUPID*.
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Arguably. It is however the only way to run svgalib programs as
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non-root. The problem isn't the tty permission, it's the fact that
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svgalib does direct port access.
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It does however provide a call (vga_init()?) which sets everything up
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and resets the uids, which is supposed to be the first line of any
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svgalib program. You can also tighten it up a bit -- one suggestion
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is to make all svgalib programs group 'console' and group executable
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(-rwsr-x--- 1 root console), then add only the users you
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'kind of' trust to the console group.
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It's still not exactly an ideal solution, but the alternatives seem to
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be to put it in the kernel (bloat...) or to make a kind of
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client/server thing with one setuid process and normal user processes
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communicating with it. This has however already been done, it's called
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X :-) Does anyone have any better ideas.
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Daniel
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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
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Subject: Re: Slackware Pro v2.0 old?
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 08:18:31 -0400
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In article <36t629$rka@pcnet1.pcnet.com>, Wayne Adams <wadams@pcnet.com> wrote:
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> I just received my cd-rom version of Slackware's Pro v2.0 and see
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>that it is using the Linux kernel 1.1.18 but now I see the kernel is all the
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>way up to 1.1.50 (anything newer?). Being a newbie to Linux, should I be
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>concerned with this, or get used to using Linux before recompiling the
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>kernel? It also came with Xfree 2.1.1 and 3.0 and I now see 3.1 is avail.
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>Again, do the upgrade?
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> I understand that things change quickly, but still wondering. (G)
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> TIA,
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> Wayne
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>
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In terms of the kernel, I'd say don't bother keeping up unless you're
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into developing it with the other generous people who do. The kernel you
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received was chosen for stability after it had been around awhile. The
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more up to date a kernel is, the less certain you can be that it is
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stable. But sometimes you'll want to take that risk if a newer version
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supports some hardware that wasn't supported before, or if some software
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requires it.
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As for the new Xfree 3.1, it is apparently a major enhancement over
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the previous version, and because of the way it's developed (as opposed
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to the linux method), new releases of Xfree are much more likely to be
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stable and safe, so I'd say, get it.
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-ZB-
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From: arjano@htsa.hva.nl (Arjan van Oeveren)
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Subject: Wanted: True color pix-viewer
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:40:00 GMT
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Hello,
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Since I've gotten a new video-card with a 24-bit DAC, I'd like to know
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if there is any software to utilize it, that DAC I mean, with.
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I am searching for picture viewers and animation viewers. The more formats
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they support the better, but in any case JPG for the picture viewer and
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MPEG and/or AVI for the animation viewer.
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Since X doesn't allow for more than 256 colors, yet, the programs should be
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able to run in textmode with help of svgalib or something. I'm forced to use
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the rather excellent DOS viewers have in the mean time. ( Display and DVPEG,
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aren't they portable ? )
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In case someone is interested, here's my configuration:
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- i486SX-25 with 8 meg ram, no cache :( , isa bus
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- Topcolor VGA card with:
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CL-GD5426 chipset
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1 meg ram
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- WDC2170 harddrive, nice drive but -slow- due to my @&^#$&$^ I/O-card !
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- Linux 1.0.9, Slackware release 1.2 ( If I remeber correctly )
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- XFree86 2.0
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- SVGAlib which came with above mentioned Slacware release, I don't know
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the version
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This may sound like a not-so-state-of-the-art software configuration, but I'm
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rather new to Linux and it's said to be stable. Besides, I don't have a
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tape streamer or CD-ROM drive and I'm not plannig to install 50 floppy's
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or so every few weeks.
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-Any- help or pointers will be appreciated greatly.
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Arjan
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"I am saddened to see our world criple, Arjan van Oeveren, Netherlands
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at such a young age...." -anonymous- arjano@htsa.hva.nl
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From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 12:06:01 GMT
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In article <36ttu7$dqq@infoserv.rug.ac.be> pruyss@nessy.rug.ac.be (Piet Ruyssinck) writes:
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>Nick Kralevich (nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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>: Greetings.
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>
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>: I'm attempting to find a word processor for Linux.
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>stop attempting, install TeX/LaTeX
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[some valid remarks on LaTex and the use of- erased]
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>
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>: I don't think emacs is what I'm looking for.
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>That's also an editor.
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Mind that emacs IS the other thing you are looking for.
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The combination of LaTeX and emacs can't be beaten.
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Paai.
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From: nhu@dione.hut.fi (Nisse Husberg)
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 09:38:15 GMT
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stryder@access.digex.net (Stryder) writes:
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>rpark@uunet.uu.net (Richard Park) writes:
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>>In article <36c3pv$41e@panix3.panix.com>,
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>>S. Joel Katz <stimpson@panix.com> wrote:
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>>>>Is there a correct pronunciation?
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>>> There is a correct pronunciation and an incorrect pronunciation.
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>>>The 'I' is short. Linux almost rhymes with 'shucks'. Or, if you prefer
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>>>'Lih-nuhks'.
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>>This is the topic of a religious war. If you look at older versions of the
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>>FAQ, it says the correct pronunciation is the one specified above. But in
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>>more recent versions, it seems to have changed so that the "i" is a long vowel.
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>>I pronounce it the second way, but I don't think I would hate you if you
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>>pronounced it the first way. 8~)
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>It SHOULD be pronounced "linooks". You know. Unix backwards.
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Nope. The "i" is long and it should be pronounced "leenooks" (I hope -:).
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Anyway the "u" should be pronounced like in "you".
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Nisse
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
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From: et@madmax.aa.nps.navy.mil ()
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Subject: SB_PRO does not sound like 4W/channel..
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:34:23 GMT
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I have just installed SB_PRO + MITSUMi_double-speed
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CRrom drive + 8_ohm unamplified SONIC speakers on my
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Linux box. I hooked up the CD sound to Sb_Pro after
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switching the pins. It works, but it did not live up
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to my expectations. It does not sound like 4W per
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channel to me.
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The manual says that when hooked up to at 8ohm
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speakers, the power drops to 2W/channel. First, I
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could not make much sense out of this. It should be
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just the opposite! Second, even then it does not
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sound like 2W's either.
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I have not adjusted anything with the software, since
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the software I use -cdplayer- is a simple command line
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tool. I turn up the volume at the back of the card to
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maximum though.
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Any insight is appreciated.
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ismail
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From: geert@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Geert Uytterhoeven)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Re: Hmmm
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 08:56:47 GMT
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In article <36p88t$24b@classic.iinet.com.au>, cam@iinet.com.au (Cameron Newham) writes:
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|> PS: biggest regret in life so far: having not met Linus in person
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|> because out of all of the weeks this year I had to be sick the week
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|> he came here. :(
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Just fly to the Linux meeting in Belgium on October the 15th :-)
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Greetings,
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Geert
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Geert Uytterhoeven -->> Wavelets, Amiga, MultiUser, Linux-m68k,... |
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| Geert.Uytterhoeven@CS.kuleuven.ac.be |
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| Department of Computer Science, K.U.Leuven, Belgium |
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
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<A HREF="http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/">Click!</A>
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