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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 05:13:28 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #920
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Linux-Misc Digest #920, Volume #2 Wed, 12 Oct 94 05:13:28 EDT
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Contents:
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Weakest Linux Box (Linux Mac Daddy)
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Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Lars Hofhansl)
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache (David Flood)
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Re: Why does Slackware ship with an old version of joe? (Thomas Schenk)
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Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Donald Becker)
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Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm) (Joseph Stanley (Joe Wisniewski))
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DLL Tools & gdb problem (Marc L. Allen)
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Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Mat Ballard)
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[H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu (david her)
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Re: Linux hits the papers (Elwin E. Klaver)
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Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Brian Lane)
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Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (Robert Ashcroft)
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Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 (Lars Marowsky-Bree)
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Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: Word Processors for Linux (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Dan Newcombe)
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Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ? (Jonathan C. Solomon)
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache (michael goshorn)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (J.J. Paijmans)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (J.J. Paijmans)
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Re: Help with suck+++.tar.gz (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm) (Ian Baker)
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Re: DX2-66 @ 80MHz (was: AMD mystery chip etc. etc.) (Sam Brown)
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From: henslelf@henslelf.student.rose-hulman.edu (Linux Mac Daddy)
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Subject: Weakest Linux Box
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 23:33:28 GMT
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Reply-To: henslelf@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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I was just wondering who has the weakest Linux box? What I mean by this
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is like anyone running Linux on a 386 with 3 megs of RAM... I've got a
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386sx-16 with 5 megs of RAM and it works great (tons faster than DOS).
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If anyone has a "weaker" machine that runs Linux (and you actually use
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it) let's hear it....
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========================================================================
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Slam Foot Neck! Ride the wave. Touch Touch Touch. I'm cereal.
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Internet: henslelf@po.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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Bilbo: 137.112.200.75
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o__ o__ o__ o__ o__
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,>/'_ ,>/'_ ,>/'_ ,>/'_ ,>/'_
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(_)\(_) (_)\(_) (_)\(_) (_)\(_) (_)\(_)
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From: lars@hboix1.enet.dec.com (Lars Hofhansl)
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 16:54:22 GMT
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Reply-To: lars@hboix1.enet.dec.com
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In article <37bs9i$k4c@uuneo.neosoft.com>, billw@starbase.neosoft.com (Bill West) writes:
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>Lars Hofhansl (lars@hboix1.enet.dec.com) wrote:
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>: ATS0=n where n is the number of rings the modems should wait before it picks
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>: up the phone (you will most probably want to set n to 0).
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> ^^^^^^^^^^
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>On my Hayes-compatible ATS0=0 disables auto-answer so that you cannot dial
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>in since the modem will not pick up. This was also true for about four
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>differant brand modems that I have setup.
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Whooops... Of course ATS0=0 disables auto-answer... I'm sorry.
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(You will most probably want to set n to 1)
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Lars
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>--
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>******************************************************************************
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>Bill West
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>Houston TX
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>email: billw@starbase.neosoft.com
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>******************************************************************************
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>
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From: dcflood@u.washington.edu (David Flood)
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Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:41:51 GMT
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Well, just got back from the store where they replaced my cache chips for
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FREE (Now I know why I insisted in having socketed cache). I'll not be
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able to re-install it till this eve so look for a status message sometime
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tomarrow.
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--
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=============================================================================
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dcflood@u.washington.edu
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The above opinions are mine alone and do not reflect anyone elses.
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Besides, who wants my opinion anyway?
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=============================================================================
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From: tschenk@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Thomas Schenk)
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Subject: Re: Why does Slackware ship with an old version of joe?
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:20:34 -0600
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In article <37d6lp$6pk@nkosi.well.com>,
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Patrick J. Volkerding <gonzo@magnet.mednet.net> wrote:
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>In article <37c6jm$8tl@lynx.dac.neu.edu>,
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>zachary brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu> wrote:
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>>I use Slackware and really like it, but I'm curious why it has not upgraded
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>>joe. I know at least version 2.2 is out, but Slackware only ships 1.0.8. The
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>>only reason I care is because joe 1.0.8 is a little buggy (e.g., search and
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>>replace on large files can cause out of memory errors without swap being
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>>touched).
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>
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>This is incorrect. Slackware 2.0.1 contains Joe version 1.0.12, which I
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>think this is the latest version.
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>
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>Pat
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Zachary in only incorrect in stating the current version of joe in the
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Slackware distribution. He is correct in stating that the latest version
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of joe is 2.2. Joseph Allen announced the new version on a couple of the
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Comp.unix.* newsgroups recently.
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Tom Schenk
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system?
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:34:00 GMT
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In article <dangitCxIH4t.Dsr@netcom.com>, Lam Dang <dangit@netcom.com> wrote:
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>Jeff Kesselman (jeffpk@netcom.com) wrote:
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>
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>[cut]
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>
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>: This blocking business is an implementation detail. I don't think its a
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>: terminology issue. This whole discussion goes to illustrate my OTHER
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>: point (deleted) that the terms thread, task and process are often used in
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>: different ways. The whole area of terminology is muddied, this is
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>: PARTICULARLY true when referrign to 'threads'.
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>
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>For historical perspective, in IBM's MVS a "job" runs in its own address
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>space. Each job consists of multiple, concurrent "tasks" which share the
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>same address space.
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>
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>And, just like today's threads, MVS tasks do get in each other's way, and
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>reading dumps is still a required skill in MVS shops.
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>
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>
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>--
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>Lam Dang
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>dangit@netcom.com
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>
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>
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Okay.. and your point is?????
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As the ancient romans used to say, "Non sequitor."
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JK
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From: becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker)
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 15:06:31 -0400
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In article <HUGH.94Oct11175844@hugh.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>,
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Hugh Emberson <hugh@hugh.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
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>>>>>> "Carlos" == Carlos Irigaray <cirigara@nova.umd.edu> writes:
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>
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>Carlos> ttyS2 stands for com3 (under DOS) and is for incoming calls
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>Carlos> (difference between cua2 and ttyS2)
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>
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>This is becoming a urban legend :-) I used to believe this and it
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>caused lots of trouble. You can and should use ttyS? for dialin and
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>dialout. From the mgetty+sendfax docs (by Gert Doering):
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You can use ttyS? for both dialin and dialout, but that doesn't mean you
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*should*.
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> We use `/dev/ttyS*' all the time for dial-in *and* for
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> dial-out, and believe me, it works, and it's the *only*
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> combination that will work properly. The kernel locking mechanism
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Using /dev/cua? for dialout and leaving a 'getty' on /dev/ttyS? works well
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for me.
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> only works if you use modem auto-answer (the getty process sleeps
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> until the modem gets a carrier), and mgetty uses manual answer (it
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> waits for the RING message from the modem), which will save your
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> callers a lot of grief because their calls will only be answered
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> if your computer is ready to receive a call. Part of the
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Ahhh, so the feature of mgetty that you need is a toll saver when your
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machine isn't on-line. That's not saying that other approaches are broken,
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just that they don't support a feature that you want. You are relying on
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'mgetty' to resolve the race condition where there when both a dialin and
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dialout request occur, and counting on other dialout program to use the same
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lockfile directory and names. This approach has often failed in the past,
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resulting in the current /dev/cua? solution.
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--
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Donald Becker becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov
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USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
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Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771
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301-286-0882 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html
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From: wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com (Joseph Stanley (Joe) Wisniewski)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm)
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:19:37 GMT
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In article <37eeut$ont@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts) writes:
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|> we47932@vub.ac.be (Starblood) writes:
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|>
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|> >(ccnet.ccnet.com>
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|> >Organization: Brussels Free Universities (VUB/ULB), Belgium
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|> >Distribution:
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|>
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|> >What are you guys talking about?? I think nobody will beat me. My first
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|> >linux system will probably be Slackware 5.0. That will probably be the
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|> >first release that supports the IBM PS/2 architecture :(.
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|>
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|> Well, look on the bright side. You're using the only architecture
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|> that'll run OS/2 properly, so fair's fair. :-)
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Yes, but even OS/2 doesn't exploit the full capabilities of the fancy DMA
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interface serial and parallel ports on my PS/2 model 90.
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--
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Joseph S. Wisniewski | The views expressed are purely my own, and do not
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Ford Motor Company | reflect those of the Ford Motor Company, or any of
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Project Sapphire | its affiliates.
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wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com | "any color you want -- as long as it's black"
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From: allen@chesapeake.rps.slb.com (Marc L. Allen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: DLL Tools & gdb problem
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 15:34:32 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from gnu.gdb.bug ]
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[ Author was Marc L. Allen ]
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[ Posted on 11 Oct 1994 09:14:31 -0400 ]
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When I try to debug into a sharable library created via DLL Tools V2.11,
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I find that most (if not all) my C++ symbols are incorrect. The C ones
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seem to be fine.
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I believe the problem has to do with the .stabs entries in the assembly
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code output.
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The jumpas program replaces the global symbols with XXX_LOCAL or somesuch,
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and makes XXX external to the file. Unfortunately, the .stabs for XXX is
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still present, and it's assembled with an offset of 0, which means that the
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symbol ends up in the final library at the starting offset of the file
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instead of it's real address.
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I don't know if this is a bug in gdb, also, as there are conflicting symbols,
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but it only appears in C++ symbols and not the C symbols.
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Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas on how to solve it?
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Please email any responses to allen@chesapeake.rps.slb.com.
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Thanks,
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Marc
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From: m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au (Mat Ballard)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:17:51 GMT
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Christopher Wiles says:
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>
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> Richard L. Goerwitz writes:
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>
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>
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>: >You and I are in agreement on this, Richard. Linux is in desparate need
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>: >of it's own wordprocessor, not a typesetter.
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>
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>I agree completely, also.
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>
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>I'm willing to be the coordinator for a Linux wordprocessor project.
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>I, for one, refuse to put a DOS partition back on my machine just to run
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>AmiPro.
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>
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>People interested in contributing code are hereby begged to contact me at
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>my wsuaix address below.
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and i third that opinion (though i'm not willing to give up amipro
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just yet). good on you for giving it a go !
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more seriously, i'd like to suggest that what is needed, particularly
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to appeal to the average dos/win user, is a series of useful and capable
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applets, in roughly this order of need:
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0. a very simple editor, like "notepad";
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1. a word processor: maybe similar to "write";
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2. a spreadsheet: similar to "quattro pro dos";
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3. a paint program: similar to "paintbrush";
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4. a draw program: something the drawing package in "amipro";
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5. a pim / calendar: something better than "calendar", but simpler
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than "organiser";
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6. a database: like DBase 3;.
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they would need to have certain abilities and properties:
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a. a "common look and feel" (which one ? hell, pick a popular
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GUI and copy it; other people have);
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b. ability to read and write the common formats: eg: the word
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processor must have filters for text, RTF, ps, Word (in as
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many incarnations as possible), etc; the spreadsheet must do
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.wk1, .wk3, .xls, etc.
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c. pull down menus - win users _HATE_ trying to remember all
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those pesky commands;
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d. preferably graphical/X-based, and preferably WYSIWYG (maybe
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version 1 character-based, then version 2 X-);
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e. a common clipboard for simple cutting and pasting;
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f. the ability to use truetype and/or adobe fonts;
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g. easily installable and configurable: ie: suitable for a
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Slackware style distribution;
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h. an extensible native file structure, so that version 2.0c
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can at least read a version 6.0a file without crashing
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your entire system;
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i. on-line, context-sensitive help.
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i'm not suggesting mega-apps like word or excel, but something simpler.
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something i can quickly write a business letter on, or graph some data,
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or work out which city i'm in next thursday.
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after a while, this, i think, would get your average dos/win user happily chugging away
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on linux. they might even discover all the other benefits ...
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that is my "vision" / "wish list".
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i suspect a number of people out in net.land will say "why don't you go
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and check out andrew". i have, and it isn't what i want, or what i
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suspect that those in windows.land want. it may be a good starting
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point, however.
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just my A$0.03
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Mat Ballard
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------------------------------
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From: davidher@netcom.com (david her)
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Subject: [H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 05:25:43 GMT
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I have SWiM 1.2.4 on Slackware 2.0. everything seems work fine, but the
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window default menu (run mwm) isn't supposely has items 'Restore' 'Minimize'
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'Maximize' 'Size' 'Move' 'Lower' 'Close' ? Mine dose NOT has'Restore''Lower'or
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'Close'. It is very troublesome whenever to close a window. Do I need to
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fix somthing to make them shown ? Please help ! Thanks in advance.
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regular menu My window menu (Alt+F4, Alt+F5, Alt+F3 don't function)
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+-----------------+ +-----------------+
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| Restore Alt+F5 | | |
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| Move Alt+F7 | | Move Alt+F7 |
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| Size Alt+F8 | | Size Alt+F8 |
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| Minimize Alt+F9 | | Minimize Alt+F9 |
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| Maximize Alt+F10| | Maximize Alt+F10|
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| Lower Alt+F3 | + ----------------+
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| Close Alt+F4 |
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+-----------------+
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From: klaver@cs.utwente.nl (Elwin E. Klaver)
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Subject: Re: Linux hits the papers
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:00:16 GMT
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In article <ann-10481.780936175@cs.cornell.edu>, iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) writes:
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|> Linux finally made it into the UK press in the Guardian's pull out online
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|> section (one of these terribly trendy internet surfer pullouts). It provides
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|> a sort of vague outline of Linux and features the infamous Linus drinking
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|> beer picture. Apart from a couple of mistakes it's not bad.
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|>
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|> Alan
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|>
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|>
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|> --
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|> Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
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|> Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.
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In one of the best computer magazines (C!T) there is a article about Linux
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compared to other other 32 bit OS. On the front page (!?!) it says:
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Linux = best quality for your money
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Well that shouldn't be to difficult.
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.------------------.
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|.----------------.| ing. E. Klaver
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|| || Business Information Technologies
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|| Elwin ;-) || Department of Computer Science
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_______||__________ phone: (+31) (0)5470 74305
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From: blane@seanet.com (Brian Lane)
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 01:43:18 GMT
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Jacob Zielinski (jzielin@vanbc.wimsey.com) wrote:
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: Has anyone be able to hook their modem up so that you can dail into linux?
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: The people on #linux suggested agetty, and mgetty. But I didn't get to far
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: with those to commands. Could somebody who as done this explain how or at
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: least point me toward some docs.
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You really should get the mgetty+sendfax package from
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sunsite.unc.edu(or your local mirror). Just follow the instructions,
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compile it, and add it to your inittab.
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My only problem with it so far is getting seyon to dialout while mgetty
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is running. The docs say it should work(there's no lockfile unless mgetty
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has answered the phone) but I cannot get kermit/minicom/seyon to work.
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They think the device is busy.
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Works great for dialins. I never could get getty to work correctly.
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Brian
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"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." | finger blane@seanet.com
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President Thomas Jefferson | PGP 2.6 email accepted
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
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Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system?
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 06:07:01 GMT
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Reply-To: rna@gsb-ecu.stanford.edu
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In article <jeffpkCxJAwo.2qo@netcom.com>,
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Jeff Kesselman <jeffpk@netcom.com> wrote:
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>As the ancient romans used to say, "Non sequitor."
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Except that they spelled it "sequitur".
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RNA
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"Now write it a hundred times before sunup or I'll cut your balls off!"
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Date: 08 Oct 1994 10:25:00 +0100
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From: lmb@pointer.in-minden.de (Lars Marowsky-Bree)
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Subject: Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51
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Quoting dror@netcom.com (Oz Dror) ,
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topic 'DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51', area /comp/os/linux/misc, stardate 04.10.94:
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>when a user type dos no error is printed, but also dos is not entered.
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Check for the file /etc/dosemu.users... it lists all users which
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are allowed to run dosemu.
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--
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Lars Marowsky-Bree Voice: +49-571-63663 PGP-key via return receipt
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VirNet: 9:492/7158 Fido: 2:2449/620.16 Mail: lmb@pointer.in-minden.de
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PGP fingerprint: CF FC 3A F0 86 F1 D3 EB 79 8A CF 75 4F 4C 81 DF
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## CrossPoint v3.02 ##
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From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 07:56:34 GMT
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In article <37fdfv$4tm@news.dmpe.csiro.au>,
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Mat Ballard <m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au> wrote:
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>
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> 0. a very simple editor, like "notepad";
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There are already a number of nice *text editors* for X, though making
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up a new one consistent in look & feel to the other apps. mentioned
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might not be a bad idea...
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> 1. a word processor: maybe similar to "write";
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Certainly needed-- as nice as EZ is, it's way too complex for most
|
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users to be comfortable with, and there should be other options besides.
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|
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> 3. a paint program: similar to "paintbrush";
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"xpaint" has all the features I need, but I'm not familiar with the
|
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latest Windows programs-- anyone want to comment on what might be
|
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missing?
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|
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> 5. a pim / calendar: something better than "calendar", but simpler
|
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> than "organiser";
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|
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Yes! Very much needed. By "organiser" do you mean the Lotus product?
|
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That's a good place to start a cloning project from, though a lot of
|
||
features of Lotus O. are rarely used by most.
|
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|
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> 6. a database: like DBase 3;.
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|
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The back-end DBMS engines are already out there (Gnu database manager,
|
||
Ingres / Postgres); what's needed is a good GUI front end that
|
||
supports embedding different media types in the records.
|
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|
||
[desired attributes:]
|
||
[...]
|
||
> f. the ability to use truetype and/or adobe fonts;
|
||
|
||
My vote goes to Postscript for final output-copy fonts, but I don't
|
||
think they work very well in the context of X for on-screen work.
|
||
Doing what NeXT does with Display PS would cut out a lot of complexity
|
||
(X font <--> PS font conversions, resultant obstacles to WYSIWYG), but
|
||
what non-proprietary technology exists for this?
|
||
|
||
> i. on-line, context-sensitive help.
|
||
|
||
Yes! Definitely needed. Most Unix apps don't provide a good
|
||
interface to any on-line documentation they might have.
|
||
|
||
-- alex
|
||
|
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|
||
|
||
From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
|
||
Subject: Re: Word Processors for Linux
|
||
Date: 12 Oct 1994 08:00:42 GMT
|
||
|
||
Yes, what's the chance that someone might be able to get a hold of the
|
||
source to this abandoned product? It'd be a real shame if all the
|
||
work Lotus put in to it were to go down the drain, but they'll
|
||
probably be reluctant to give out the code on general principles...
|
||
:-(
|
||
|
||
-- alex
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
|
||
Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
|
||
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:34:59 UNDEFINED
|
||
|
||
In article <37ea82$83s@sashimi.wwa.com> blackbob@wwa.com (Terence S. Murphy) writes:
|
||
>>Anyway I like the idea of a HOWTO, but even better, I like the idea of a
|
||
>>whole package, containing documentation, sample configuration files of
|
||
>>various 'schemes' of things (.fvwmrc's, app-defaults files, whatever),
|
||
>>and a tool to manipulate (choose/install) them.
|
||
>This is even a better idea, yes. I think we should do this! What do others
|
||
>think?
|
||
|
||
I like the idea...hey...no one can stop us :)
|
||
|
||
>--
|
||
>Terry Murphy | UIUC Frosh/CS Major | "The whole world has been made again" -
|
||
|
||
Yes, but the whole world is still fugazi.
|
||
|
||
>Marillion | There ought to be an alt.fan.linus-torvalds! | "The S.A.T is not
|
||
|
||
There is.
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
|
||
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|
||
"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: jsolomon@clark.net (Jonathan C. Solomon)
|
||
Subject: Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ?
|
||
Date: 11 Oct 1994 23:13:42 GMT
|
||
|
||
Bob Salita (softwork@MCS.COM) wrote:
|
||
: Randy Zagar (zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu) wrote:
|
||
: : I haven't seen this anywhere, but I was wondering if
|
||
: : Linux supports any removeable-media drives like Syquest
|
||
: : or Bernoulli drives...
|
||
|
||
: I use Syquest 270M removables but as my non-removable C drive. It works
|
||
: on every O/S I tried (although Xenix unmounts and "ejects" in certain
|
||
: situations). Don't know how it would do as a removable cartridge. Seems
|
||
: like you should be able to remove if you unmount first.
|
||
|
||
: Bob
|
||
|
||
My Syquest 105M works just fine as a removable. The cartridge won't
|
||
eject _at all_ unless you unmount it first.
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: goshorn@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (michael goshorn)
|
||
Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
|
||
Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:18:25 GMT
|
||
|
||
David Flood (dcflood@u.washington.edu) wrote:
|
||
: I recently upgraded my mother board and memory from a 386sx16 w/ 4M to a
|
||
: 386dx40 with 5M. This new bard has a 128K cache on it that when enabled,
|
||
: an attempted recompile of the kernel will bomb out with several errors
|
||
: that a restart of the compile will run right by until another error occurs.
|
||
: But with the cache disabled, everything runs just fine.
|
||
|
||
: Also, with the cache, I get a lot faster response and speed with a
|
||
: BogoMip rating of around 7.8-7.9. Without it it is closer to 4.0. How
|
||
: can I keep the cache and (perhaps more importantly) does anyone know of a
|
||
: program to test cache memory incase I have a bad chip?
|
||
|
||
David,
|
||
Sorry , no fixes here either. I'm running a "SER" motherboard
|
||
witn an AMD 40 DX. My AMI bios allows 0 or 1 wait states on the cache.
|
||
The only success I've had is when the cache is disabled. Not fun.
|
||
M Goshorn
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
|
||
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
|
||
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
|
||
Date: 9 Oct 1994 09:35:39 GMT
|
||
|
||
In article <071094235001@rempt.xs4all.nl> boud@rempt.xs4all.nl writes:
|
||
...
|
||
|
||
>Couldn't agree more. I tried Linux and all editors it came with, but
|
||
>even for Dutch they weren't adequate; now I use Windows with a
|
||
>US-International keyboard definition and some Tibetan and IPA fonts I made in
|
||
>CorelDraw!.
|
||
|
||
Funny. I travelled the road in the opposite direction. OK If and when
|
||
I have to do something that involves greek or hebrew (once a year), I
|
||
revert to Windows. Same if I have to do "art work" like beautifully
|
||
laid out invitations or things like that. But my Ph.D. thesis,
|
||
scientific articles (some formulas are involved but not much) or
|
||
generally the "serious" stuff -- well, the last six months LaTeX
|
||
proved to be more productive.
|
||
|
||
An important part of its attraction is that the LaTeX-look already has
|
||
been approved by most journals and editors in my line of work, so if
|
||
they don't like the looks of my articles, it is their problem. And of
|
||
course LaTeX may be sent by email, be "grepped", "awked", "headed",
|
||
"tailed" and "sedded" without inviting disasters. Furthermore I can
|
||
take my work to any machine that sports an ASCII-editor, be it a dumb
|
||
terminal, Mac, DOS PC, Unix or VAX and continue working (as long as
|
||
the disk can be read or a serial link to an usable drive can be
|
||
created.
|
||
|
||
Last but not least LaTeX doesn't change. In my queste for the holy
|
||
Grail of wordprocessing I used a lot different systems over the years.
|
||
If I have to go back to my personal archives for old articles written
|
||
in, say, Ventura (although that one is ASCII-based too), old WP-files,
|
||
old MS-Word-files, I generally have a problem. Not so my collegues,
|
||
who have been using LaTeX for ten years or so.
|
||
|
||
Oh, and it is nice to animals too... :-)
|
||
|
||
Paai.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
|
||
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
|
||
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
|
||
Date: 9 Oct 1994 09:49:15 GMT
|
||
|
||
In article <1994Oct8.141920.8660@midway.uchicago.edu> goer@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
|
||
>Sergei Naoumov writes:
|
||
>>
|
||
>>It can be easily done with XEmacs. LaTeX is not a text processor. It's a
|
||
>>different thing -- typesetting system.
|
||
>
|
||
>Right on. The point here is that most people prefer for these two things
|
||
>to be integrated, and not artificially separated. Separation here is an
|
||
>artifact of the 80s.
|
||
>
|
||
>Now I realize that many people - particularly people who like to get into
|
||
>the internals of every system they encounter - like LaTeX as it is. Just
|
||
>recognize, folks, that you are in the minority. Also, recognize that the
|
||
>rest of us aren't just stupid. We simply have different priorities.
|
||
>
|
||
|
||
Yes, but are you "right"? Why is the separation of the production stage
|
||
from the consumer stage an artifact? As I see it, what we are calling
|
||
"lay-out" in a WYSIWYG system has at least two functions:
|
||
|
||
1. Creating symbols and drawings on screen and paper that the author
|
||
would draw on paper when he would be writing an article by hand.
|
||
|
||
2. Making the text (& drawings & formulas) easy to read for the consumer,
|
||
avoiding "ugly" things like widows & orphans, choosing the right fonts
|
||
and margins in relation to the dimensions of the page etc.
|
||
|
||
I can understand that an author would like to see his formula's and
|
||
diagrams, but he can do that in a different window.
|
||
But why should the author have a responsibility towards that second
|
||
function?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Sorry... I am interrupted. Will continue later.
|
||
|
||
Paai
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
|
||
Subject: Re: Help with suck+++.tar.gz
|
||
Date: 12 Oct 1994 08:04:40 GMT
|
||
|
||
Heh heh, huh huh... this program SUCKS!!
|
||
|
||
-- alex
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
|
||
From: ian@sonic.net (Ian Baker)
|
||
Subject: Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm)
|
||
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 01:23:54 GMT
|
||
|
||
---On 7 Oct 1994 21:28:08 GMT, Noel Maddy (noel@garnet.msen.com) wrote:
|
||
: Cameron Newham (cam@iinet.com.au) wrote:
|
||
: : tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts) writes:
|
||
|
||
|
||
: : >My God. You make me feel like a newbie! My first Linux kernel was
|
||
: : >0.98pl5, but I had only just taken delivery of my (then) shiny new
|
||
: : >486-33 with 8Mb RAM, which I thought was the bee's knees at the time.
|
||
|
||
: : Don't feel like a newbie! I joined at 0.99pl12 (i think)
|
||
: : (whatever one was released in May 1993) when I got my 486dx50.
|
||
|
||
: Well, I didn't get into it until 0.99pl15...again, when I got a
|
||
: usable computer (DX2/50 for me). Sure love it though. I can hardly
|
||
|
||
none of you should feel bad. I finally started at 1.0.5!
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
(ian@sonic.net __oOO______OOo__ ibaker@nermal.santarosa.edu)
|
||
|| ____ ||
|
||
|/ Oo \|
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: rigor@crl.com (Sam Brown)
|
||
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
|
||
Subject: Re: DX2-66 @ 80MHz (was: AMD mystery chip etc. etc.)
|
||
Date: 10 Oct 1994 06:09:53 -0700
|
||
|
||
my dx-2-66 at 80 will run very cool. the fan itself is metal cased, hence
|
||
it disperses heat into itself and the fan Sucks air away from the cpu, no
|
||
need to blow dust down :)
|
||
|
||
maybe you need to get a new motherboard that is design with heat sink
|
||
more in mind?
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
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|
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