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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 14:13:13 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #235
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Linux-Activists Digest #235, Volume #6 Thu, 16 Sep 93 14:13:13 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: strange unix socket behaviour (term gurus read too pls) (Alan Cox)
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Re: Database for LINUX? (Dan Newcombe)
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IPC in Linux (Peter P Chiu)
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Re: Project Management tools, or related software (Rod Hart)
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Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. (Philip Gladstone)
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/etc/lilo/config (was: Re: Booting from HD on a "pure" Linux machine) (Willie Lim)
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Re: 2 button mouse (how to get third button) (Zack Evans)
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[Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive (Taek-Soo Kim)
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New 383 Meg Seagate Hard Drives $269.00 GREAT PRICE (John V. Jaskolski)
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Future Domain SCSI (Gregg D. Brekke)
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Re: Database for LINUX? (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
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Easy way to use complex numbers in C++ (i.e. like Fortran)
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Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. (Georg-W. Koltermann)
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X hangs on me! (Hubert Sieh)
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What's the diff between SLS, MCC, Slackware and Debian? (Joe Emenaker)
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Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk (Mark Lord)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: strange unix socket behaviour (term gurus read too pls)
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 11:53:36 GMT
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In article <c9108932.748158154@peach.newcastle.edu.au> c9108932@peach.newcastle.edu.au (Simon J Ferrett) writes:
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>Hello - I just set up the alpha 13 kernel to see if it would
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>fix up my unix socket weirdness, and it does - but only for a while?
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ALPHA13 now uses NET2E4 which is a pity cos thats even worse than the old
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NET code.
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>just after a reboot I can 'netstat -x' and see the status of all the
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>af_unix connections, however, eventually (after running some term clients
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>usually) doing a 'netstat -x' produces a segmentation fault and a register
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>dump. The seg fault happens in unix_get_info (from memory).
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Yep I've seen this too. It seems to be once too many sockets build up. I guess
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it passed the 4K internal limit on a /proc file. But it _should_ trap it.
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>The reason Im concerned is that Im trying to modify the ftpd-diku
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>sources to work over a term connection. It works fine, except that
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>exenually (sooner or later) the 'connect' system call in terms
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>'open_unix' function catches a SIGCHLD, gets interrupted and the
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>program segfaults. Under pl13 it takes lonmger for this to happen,
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>but it still does.
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When term spawns a program and that program exits term gets a signal saying
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it has exited. This interrupts the connect and then term breaks. Putting
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a signal(SIGCHLD,SIG_IGN) before the connect sort of seems to work with 0.99.12
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I can't get the 0.99.13ALPHA up for over 3 minutes so I can't test with that
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(It is an alpha so ...)
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>also - if I put a loop around the connect, so that if it fails, it tries again,
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>it just loops indefinately, trying.
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Once a connect is interrupted the socket seems to end up broken. I've been
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chasing this with little success.
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ALan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.unix
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From: dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Dan Newcombe)
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Subject: Re: Database for LINUX?
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 12:53:30 GMT
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debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) writes:
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> In article <CDB4BC.KzI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, jkowalik@undergrad.math.
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> |> I was wondering if there exists a Database for Linux. If not, can anyone
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> |> suggest a Unix like OS that would have a database program? I am interested
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> |> databases that use Informix SQL language.
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>
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> Get POSTGRES, a relational active database management system. it WORKS!
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> (nic.funet.fi) and others?
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I have INGRES, and the tinkering I've done, it works. Does POSTGRES do SQL?
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I know the publiuc version of Ingres doesn't.
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-Dan
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--
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Dan Newcombe dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu and many others...
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"The fool who escaped from paradise will look over his shoulder and cry."
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-Marillion, "Script for a Jesters Tear"
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--- Check out Linux - the FREE i386+ Unixlike system - email me for info ---
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-=-=-=-=- Show how smart you are - stop flaming on the net-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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From: ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter P Chiu)
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Subject: IPC in Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 13:47:56 GMT
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Hi,
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Can anyone tell me if Linux provides IPC system calls which support semaphors,
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message queues, and shared memory?
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If it does, what are those system calls?
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Please send answer directly to ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu
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Thanks
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--
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.&______~*@*~______&. m Peter Chiu
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"w/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\w" mmm*** Washington University, St. Louis
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`Y""Y""Y"""""Y""Y""Y' mm***** ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu
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p-p_|__|__|_____|__|__|_q-q mm**Y** 275 Union Blvd, #711, St. Louis,
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_-[EEEEM==M==MM===MM==M==MEEEE]-_.|..|.... Missouri 63108 (314) 367-3599
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Crossposted-To: alt.internet.services,alt.sources.wanted,bln.comp.pc,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.graphics.avs,comp.graphics.explorer,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.lang.visual,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.programming,comp.unix.programmer,comp.windows.x.apps,uiuc.visual
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From: hart@briar.bell-atl.com (Rod Hart)
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Subject: Re: Project Management tools, or related software
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 14:23:10 GMT
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I too have a need for Project Management software. Any info would be appreciated.
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--
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Signed by:
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_ __ _ _ ,
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' ) ) / / ' ) / ' ) / _/_
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/--' ______/ _ __ o _. /_ / / / /--/ __. __ /
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From: philip@charon.citicorp.com (Philip Gladstone)
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Subject: Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space.
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Date: 16 Sep 1993 10:31:11 -0400
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Reply-To: Philip.Gladstone@mail.citicorp.com
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My (failed) approach to using Windows swap space was just to swap
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directly into the Windows swap file. Of course, this doesn't work
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right now as the MSDOS fs doesn't support bmap. However, I think
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that this will change real soon.
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Philip
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--
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Philip Gladstone - Consultant
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Citicorp Global Information Network
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I don't speak for Citicorp. I presume that somebody else does!
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From: wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim)
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Subject: /etc/lilo/config (was: Re: Booting from HD on a "pure" Linux machine)
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 15:07:49 GMT
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Thanks to all for their email on this. I did tinker with LILO but
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didn't get it to work (I followed the instructions in the Installation
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manual). I might have missed something. Anyway I got it to work
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yesterday (don't know how). All I did was read /etc/lilo/README and
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went to the steps one by one. I even run the command using my newly
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modified config file (see below): /etc/lilo/install -v -v -v -t
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Right after that I could reboot from the harddisk. I don't remember
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if I ran /etc/lilo/install after but I know that I did ran it several
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times before. It could that I didn't set up my config file properly
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e.g. using /dev/hda1 for boot instead of /dev/hda. Anyway it works
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real well now.
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Willie
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***********start of /etc/lilo/config for Linux SLS 1.03***********************
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boot = /dev/hda
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install = /etc/lilo/boot.b
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delay = 100
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compact
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vga=normal
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image = /zImage
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label = linux
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root = /dev/hda1
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***************************end of /etc/lilo/config****************************
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From: zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zack Evans)
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Subject: Re: 2 button mouse (how to get third button)
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 14:36:51 GMT
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I'll answer this here because I keep seeing this, even though it's in the man
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page for XFree.
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In article <CDEpAr.Bq8@news.cis.umn.edu>,
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Julie D Cassaidy-1 <cassa002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
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>I have a MS mouse (read two button) and want to know how to emulate the
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>middle button. I have heard of using the two buttons together can do
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>this if set up properly. I don't know how to do this. Any help will be
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>appreciated.
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Add emulate3buttons to Xconfig. It mkaes sense to add it just after the line
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telling XFree which sort of mouse you have.
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Zack
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Zack Evans pyc081@cent1.lancs.ac.uk or zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu
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UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
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as that would also stop them from doing clever things.
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From: tkim@cse1.ecs.umass.edu (Taek-Soo Kim)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: [Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive
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Date: 16 Sep 1993 14:43:20 GMT
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Hi,
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I am trying to select a PC to use mainly with Linux on it and was looking
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into the Magazines. It seemd most of the systems carry Diamond graphics
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card these days. I know it is not supported in Linux but some people seem
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to be using it after some fiddling with the timing.
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I'd like to know from the people using Diamond graphics card, which card
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you are using and in which mode (ex, 1024x800, color, mono...). I would like
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to have my system with 8bit color and 1024x800.
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I'd also like to know what kind of tape drive people are using for backup
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on Linux (including the controller). If I am to have few hundred Megabytes of
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Disk space, I believe backup is an important aspect I should consider.
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Any information would be helpful. Please send your reply to
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tkim@zonker.ecs.umass.edu
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Thank you.
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Taek-Soo Kim
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From: jasko@park.bu.edu (John V. Jaskolski)
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Subject: New 383 Meg Seagate Hard Drives $269.00 GREAT PRICE
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Date: 16 Sep 93 11:08:35
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Reply-To: jasko@cns.bu.edu
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Numerous people have read posts on comp.os.linux from individuals
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who have purchased the 383 Meg hard drives from me.
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Since the original post is no longer there, I have received lots of
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inquiries regarding these drives, what the price was, and whether or
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not I could get any more. I found out today that I can get more. The
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following is the original post.
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*ORIGINAL POST FOLLOWS:**************************************
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I have a few brand new 383 Meg Seagate SCSI hard drives. These
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drives went for $450.00 regularly. I will give these 383 Meg drives
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away to anyone who wants one for $269.00 each. Call me after 5:30 PM
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Eastern time if you want one. I will give them out on a first come
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first serve basis and they will go fast.
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These are Seagate ST-2383N SCSI Hard Drives. They were manufactured
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by SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY and are internal 5 1/4" Half Height Drives. They
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are vastly superior to most of the non-SCSI hard drives out there.
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They will work with *ANY* SCSI controller. They are brand new, still
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in the box, and come with docs. They are
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100% guaranteed for 30 days. If you get one and you don't like the
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way it matches your wallpaper simply return it for your money back
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*NO QUESTIONS ASKED*!
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These drives also work perfectly with Linux, BSD, and other Unices for the PC.
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They work fine with Macs. The dimensions of the drive are as
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follows: 5 1/4" x 1 1/2" x 8 1/2" (Standard 5 1/4" half height
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internal PC drive dimensions). If you are going to use it with a MAC
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then either make sure you have sufficient room in terms of drive bays
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or get an external enclosure.
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I can take Visa or MasterCard for these. You can call any time after
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5:30 PM (and up until 2:00 AM) to order one. My home phone number
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is (617) 246-3634. If you think it is too late and they are already
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gone call anyway because your call will put you in line for one if I
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can get any more. If nobody is home you can leave a message on our
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machine and I will call you within hours of your leaving a message.
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The cost is as follows:
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383 Meg Seagate Hard Drive $269.00
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S&H $ 10.00
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TOTAL $279.00
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(This is the amount that would be charged to your credit card.)
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If you are going to pay with a check or money order:
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In order to acquire a Seagate make your payment or money order for $279.00
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payable to:
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Dr. John V. Jaskolski
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send it to:
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Dr. John V. Jaskolski
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Suite #307
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95 Audubon Rd.
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Wakefield, MA.
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01880
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E-MAIL me confirming exactly what you want and in what quantity and
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indicate how much money you sent in your payment.
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Sincerely,
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Dr. John V. Jaskolski
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jasko@park.bu.edu
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P.S. The Specs follow:
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These are the specs:
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Condition *BRAND NEW*
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Unformatted Capacity 383 Meg
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Formatted Capacity 332 Meg
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Average Access Time 14 ms
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Data Transfer Rate 2.75 Meg/SEC
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Form Factor: 5 1/2" Half Height
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Buffer 64Kbyte
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SCSI-I: Read Look-Ahead,
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Non-Adaptive, Single-Segmented
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Buffer.
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SCSI-II: Read Look-Ahead, Adaptive,
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Multi-Segmented Cache.
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MTBF (power-on hours) 100,000
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Average Sectors Per Track 74
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Tracks 8827
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Cylinders 1261
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Heads 7
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Discs 4
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Media Type Thin Film
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Spindle Speed 3600
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TPI (Tracks Per Inch) 1459
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BPI (Bits Per Inch) 31674
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Single Track Seek 3 ms
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Power Requirements +12V Start-Up (amps) 4.0
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+12V Typical (amps) 1.0
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+5V Start-Up (amps) 0.75
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+5V Typical (amps) 0.65
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Typical Watts 16
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Maximum Watts 58
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Landing Zone (cyl) AUTO PARK
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From: greggb@acme.fred.org (Gregg D. Brekke)
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Subject: Future Domain SCSI
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Date: 16 Sep 93 14:19:43 GMT
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I have a Future Domain TMC-1680 SCSI controller and Linux doesn't seem
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to recognize it at all. I thought I read it was in the list of
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'supported' hardware?
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Anyone else using this card? The a1 disk tells me I have 0 SCSI hosts
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and 0 hard drives, tape drives and CD-ROM drives although I have one of
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each attached.
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DOS and OS/2 work with all of these devices and the controller just
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fine.
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Thanks for the help,
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Gregg
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.unix
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From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
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Subject: Re: Database for LINUX?
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 14:48:53 GMT
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In article <VB1y0B7w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:
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|> debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) writes:
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|>
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|> > In article <CDB4BC.KzI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, jkowalik@undergrad.math.
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|> > |> I was wondering if there exists a Database for Linux. If not, can anyone
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|> > |> suggest a Unix like OS that would have a database program? I am interested
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|> > |> databases that use Informix SQL language.
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|> >
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|> > Get POSTGRES, a relational active database management system. it WORKS!
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|> > (nic.funet.fi) and others?
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|>
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|> I have INGRES, and the tinkering I've done, it works. Does POSTGRES do SQL?
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|> I know the publiuc version of Ingres doesn't.
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|>
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|> -Dan
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|>
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|>
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|> --
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|> Dan Newcombe dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu and many others...
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|> "The fool who escaped from paradise will look over his shoulder and cry."
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|> -Marillion, "Script for a Jesters Tear"
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|> --- Check out Linux - the FREE i386+ Unixlike system - email me for info ---
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|> -=-=-=-=- Show how smart you are - stop flaming on the net-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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|>
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No, Postgres uses a flavor of the QUEL language (used in INGRES?)
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But I thought it was SQL-like. Isn't it?
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Sincerely, Steef
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From: pramod@radon.ece.uiuc.edu ()
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Subject: Easy way to use complex numbers in C++ (i.e. like Fortran)
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Date: 16 Sep 93 10:30:24 GMT
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Hi,
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I am wondering if there is an easy way to incorporate complex numbers
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into C++. I am referring to the way it is in fortran, i.e. without special
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concern except declaration as complex. Also I have come accross complex
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libraries in BC and in the PC port of GCC (DJCPP) does anyone know if the
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source and header files for those libraries are available anywhere?
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Thanks,
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Pramod John
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--
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Pramod John, Dept. of ECE at UIUC
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email: pramod@uiuc.edu
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"Blessed are the peacemakers"- Jesus Christ
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From: gwk@hemlock.cray.com (Georg-W. Koltermann)
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Subject: Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space.
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Date: 16 Sep 93 10:27:48 CDT
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I use a very simple scheme for sharing the swap partition between
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MS-DOS/Windows and Linux. In Linux I do the mkswap and swapon during
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boot. This accomplishes making the partition usable as a LINUX swap
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space.
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After booting DOS, I format the swap partition. THE FIRST TIME ONLY, I
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create a permanent swap file for WINDOWS to fill the partition
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completely.
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Later on, when I boot DOS, I JUST REFORMAT that partition to make it
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usable by DOS. When I successively start WINDOWS, I get a complaint
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that the permanent swap file is gone. Windows then offers to recreate
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the swap file automatically. Just type 'Y' and you are in business.
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Georg-W. Koltermann (gwk@cray.com)
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From: siehhube@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Hubert Sieh)
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Subject: X hangs on me!
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Date: 16 Sep 93 14:24:35 GMT
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I just got the latest release of SLS Linux from tsx-11. I've got a
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Diamond Stealth and I'm using the XS3-0.4 server. X froze-up three
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times already.
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1. I tried gunzipping a file.
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2. I just typed 'kermit' in a shell.
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3. Typed kermit, dialed, connected, then died.
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Anyone know what's the problem?
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Anyone get the Stealth working with XFree1.3, w/o the XS3-0.4 server?
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Please MAIL responses to : siehhube@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
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From: jemenake@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (Joe Emenaker)
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Subject: What's the diff between SLS, MCC, Slackware and Debian?
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 17:31:49 GMT
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With all of the furor over SLS and all recently, I have a question as
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to the differences between all of these new "distributions" going
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around.
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You see, when I first found out about Linux, I first just got copies
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of the kernel and all of the utilities and all. I also got the little
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readme file that detailed how I was supposed to run fdisk and then
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mkfs and all that crap. It never did work for me.
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That's why I was pleased when I found SLS, because it installed itself
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for me and I was up and running. <shwing!>.
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Now that there all of these competing distributions out there now, I
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was curious what the difference between all of them are. The last time
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I checked the faq, it just mentioned that SLS was a little easier to
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install than the others of that time.
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Specifically, what are the perks offered by each of the
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distributions?
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--
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Joe Emenaker - Sexual Engineer | Our infernal mailer daemon has been quite
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jemenake@oboe.calpoly.edu | insistent that my signature be limited to just
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..or.. @bslab65.calpoly.edu | 4 lines. However, as you can see, I have
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..or.. @cash.calpoly.edu | figured out an elegant way to put as many as
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From: mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
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Subject: Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 17:28:30 GMT
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In article <1993Sep15.160253.17983@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk writes:
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>In article <1993Sep15.131236.2976@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes:
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>>My drive pretends to have 2034 cylinders, and fdisk 1.4 gives repeated
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>>warnings about logical.ne.physical parameters for partitions above the
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>>invisible 1024cyl "barrier". If I didn't know better (and I do), I'd panic
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>>and wonder what to do to use a disk over 1024cyl. Perhaps we should get
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>>the maintainer of fdisk1.4 to add a check to remove those warnings for linux
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>>native partitions, possibly replacing them by a more sensible "note" about
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>>bootable kernel images having to reside within the first 1024cyls.
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>
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>The problem is that there is no 'standard' way of handling partitions above
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>the 1024 cylinder limit in the partition table. Thus any partition
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>extending above this limit may possibly be a source of difficulty
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>on a machine which adopts a solution different from that adopted in
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>the Linux fdisk. Still, I may be able to change the message to
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>be more helpful in the next revision.
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Thanks.
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Perhaps we could have a look at the FDISK from IBM OS/2 2.x, which claims to
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be able to handle >1024cyl in some way. That's probably as close to a
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"standard" as the PC world is likely to get, or at least as good a model
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as anything else might be.
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I may give it a try on my own system to see what it thinks of my partitions..
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--
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mlord@bnr.ca Mark Lord BNR Ottawa,Canada 613-763-7482
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