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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 00:13:22 EST
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #366
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Linux-Activists Digest #366, Volume #6 Thu, 11 Nov 93 00:13:22 EST
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Contents:
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Linux questions (need FAQ - where?) (Tony Nugent)
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Re: Nethack + Linux, Please Help! (Pat Rankin)
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Chipset for Ahead V5000 Video Card in Xconfig? (Khalil Al-Jawhari)
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SCSI woes (Stewart Allen)
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General linux questions (jason.levine@columbia.edu)
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Re: Linux on 80286???? (Tim Smith)
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Re: Linux performance?? (Marius Kjeldahl)
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Re: X support for ATI Ultra? (Marius Kjeldahl)
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Re: HELP! Help! AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!! (Harald Koenig)
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Re: 1280x1024x256 Graphics @ > 70 Hz (ANDRE SCHR”TER INFORMATIK)
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Problem with CxPatch
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lpd doesn't keep running (Stefan Baltus)
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Re: SLOW comms with X problem (Craig Ashcroft Willmott)
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Re: Linux performance?? (Gregory Gulik)
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Re: 0.99pl13 Kernel Compilation ($ Burkhard Kohl)
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*** Upcoming removal of comp.os.linux *** (David Barr)
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Re: rsh bug ? (Patrick J. Volkerding)
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From: anugent@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Tony Nugent)
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Subject: Linux questions (need FAQ - where?)
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 23:49:50 GMT
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Argh! I found the FAQ posted in the very next newsgroup I read
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here! :-)
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(comp.os.linux.announce)
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However, if anyone can answer any of those specific questions
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I asked, then I'm all ears!
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Thanks (and sorry I opened my big mouth two minutes too soon :)
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Cheers
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Tony
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--
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It is easier to fight for one's principles | anugent@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au
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than live up to them. Alfred Adler |
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From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)
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Crossposted-To: rec.games.hack
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Subject: Re: Nethack + Linux, Please Help!
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Date: 9 Nov 1993 19:48 PDT
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Reply-To: nethack.rankin@eql.caltech.edu
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In article <1993Nov9.224301.1474@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au>,\
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stuartl@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Stuart Langley) writes...
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[...]
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> I have downloaded version 3.10 from nic.funet.fi which
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> has supposedly already been converted over for use
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> straight from the box for linux. [...]
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There's no such thing as nethack 3.10; if that's 3.1.0, then
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throw it away and get 3.1.3, the current version. If it's actually
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3.0pl10, then throw it ever farther away. ;-)
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From: cobra@ee.ryerson.ca (Khalil Al-Jawhari)
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Subject: Chipset for Ahead V5000 Video Card in Xconfig?
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 04:40:01 GMT
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Hello,
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I have already figured out the Video Mode table values for my monitor in the
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Xconfig file. However, I do not know what chipset to use for my VGA card.
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I have an Ahead V5000 16-bit Video Card. Does anyone know if XFree supports
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this card? And if so, what chipset should I specify in the Xconfig.
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I should add that a sticker labelled "AVGA" appears on a chip on the card.
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Please any help would be appreciated. I thank you.
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Cobra.
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From: stewart@milhouse.oec.com (Stewart Allen)
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Subject: SCSI woes
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 00:55:34 -0500
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I am attempting to install Linux on my 486-66 Unisys that has an Adaptec SCSI
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controller built onto the motherboard. Unfortunately, the boot disk does not
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recognize this controller. I would like to get hold of code, if possible, to
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recompile the scsi drivers to recognize my controller. But it seems a bit of a
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catch-22 that I must have Linux installed in order to do this. Perhaps I am
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wrong, but I had not been able to find appropriate code. Also, I wouldn't have
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the first clue about how to create a bootable disk.
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Secondly, I cannot reach "sunsite" to send e-mail! Wrong backbone, apparently
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we're restricted.
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Stewart Allen
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Open Environment Corporation
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stewart@oec.com
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From: jason.levine@columbia.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: General linux questions
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 06:54:25 GMT
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Hello. I have a few questions, which are somewhat unrelated. As
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a precursor, I am completely new to Linux, and as such, know nothing
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about it but what I have been able to gather over the last 5 hours
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or so over the net.
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First, for descriptive purposes, I have a 386/33, 8 megs RAM, a 240
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meg hard disk, a Promise caching IDE disk controller with 4 megs RAM
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on it, a Diamond Speedstar Pro video board, and a Cabletron 10baseT
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ethernet board. Standard other components -- a bootable 1.2M 5 1/4"
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drive, a 1.4M 3 1/2" drive, Logitech mouse, etc. I have a 17" high-
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refresh Philips color display.
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Now, first of all, will Linux run on this system? I read somewhere
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over the last 5 hours that Cabletron E21xx boards are not supported
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or usable with Linux... if that's the case, then I have to stop here,
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since that's what's provided by Columbia to me. (I can always buy
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myself a real board, though...)
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Second of all, will I be able to run X-windows (from what I can
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understand, Xfree386) at 1024x768, in color? Unfortunately, I don't
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know what kind of accelerator is on the SSPro, but maybe someone out
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there does, or has it running with Linux.
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Third, what would be the "best" flavor of Linux to run? From what I
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can understand, SLS is the most comprehensive... should I start off
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with it, and tailor it to my needs? I've administered a Sun workstation
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before, so the tailoring part shouldn't be that difficult, but I am
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just wondering if SLS is the best place to start.
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Lastly, where should I try to get a hold of the Linux distribution of
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choice? I have FTP access directly from my PC, so I can bring stuff
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in at relatively high rates of speed; the question is if it would be
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better worth my time/money to just buy a distribution.
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Thanks A LOT in advance for any help.
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Jason Levine
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From: tzs@stein3.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
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Subject: Re: Linux on 80286????
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 08:53:14 GMT
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Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
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>This is correct. Of course there are Unix clones for the 286 (Coherent and SCO
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It's possible to do real Unix for the 286, rather than a clone Unix. It's
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not clear why anyone would want to do this (I've used System V Release 3
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on a 286, and it is not a pretty sight...).
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--Tim Smith
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From: s_marius@irau27.ira.uka.de (Marius Kjeldahl)
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Subject: Re: Linux performance??
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 08:55:59 GMT
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Being a user of both (Linux and Win3.1) I would either way argue that
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Linux is faster, due to the fact of true 386/486 performance. However
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SOME applications MIGHT run faster under DOS/Win3.1, especially those
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who are very CPU intensive (and thereby hogs 100% cpu under
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DOS/Win3.1), but in normal use I find using Linux faster. Also there
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now exists accelerated video drivers for both Win3.1 and Linux/X, and
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I'm happily running Linux/X with opaque drags and things - real cool
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(I'm using XFree2.0 with ATI GUP LocalBus). Normally it is not only
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the absolute speed that counts, you should also consider what you can
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be doing while your computer is doing something else. In the
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DOS/Win3.1 I normally have no choice, if I do some CPU intensive work,
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I just have to sit and watch, drink coffee, read the paper etc. With
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Linux/X I can actually start some CPU intensive job, and start working
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on my next task, like finally writing that e-mail reply..
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However I still boot DOS/Win3.1 whenever I need to do WordProcessing
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and Spreadsheet calculation, because I have found no suitable
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applications for these things under Linux/X (I'm not into
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"programming" documents, like under Emacs/TeX). I've also heard about
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other commercial software running under X in general, but there is no
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guarante that these have or will be ported to run under Linux/X. Also
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I believe that the software prices for "professional/commercial"
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software running under Unix/X is more expensive than their DOS/Win3.1
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equivalents.
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One last thing to consider is what you actually get. With Linux/X and
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the GNU packages that comes with it, you get a _lot_ of software for
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free (including a lot of compilers, utilities, editors, window
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environment). And if your going to hook your computer to a network
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running TCP, you might also consider Linux/X since it usually offers
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what most workstations currently offer in the user environment (which
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with a few exeptions means X).
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I've grown up with DOS/Win3.1 and in the beginning I found the switch
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to Linux/X very hard, mostly because I had no experience what so ever
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in the field. Also I've done quite a bit programming under DOS/Win3.1.
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Now I've finally taken the big step and started using Linux/X for
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real, and I must admit I like it better and better. However for
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writing reports and creating big spreadsheets, I keep booting
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DOS/Win3.1. Hopefully this will not last forever.. Just my $.02 .
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Marius Kjeldahl ( s_marius@ira.uka.de ) | Seeking organisation for my
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Student in Operational Research, Informatics, | dissertation and/or future
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Economics and Management at the Norwegian Inst. | employment - please "finger"
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of Technology/Univ. of Karlsruhe, Germany | for more information...
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--
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Marius Kjeldahl ( s_marius@ira.uka.de ) | Seeking organisation for my
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Student in Operational Research, Informatics, | dissertation and/or future
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Economics and Management at the Norwegian Inst. | employment - please "finger"
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of Technology/Univ. of Karlsruhe, Germany | for more information...
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From: s_marius@irau27.ira.uka.de (Marius Kjeldahl)
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Subject: Re: X support for ATI Ultra?
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 09:03:11 GMT
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In article <1993Nov5.153916.293@pt.com> kng@pt.com (Ken Gravenstede) writes:
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With XFree2.0 I find that the X support for ATI GUP is great. It has
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an accelerated driver which utilize the mach32 chip on the ATI
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GUP. I'm running X with Slackware (pl13) in 1024x768x256 mode, and
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everything works great! I had big trouble obtaining the right clocks
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for my card (for the Xconfig file in XFree1.3), but after obtaining
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these, adapting the configuration to my monitor was easy (using the
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vgaset program). I also believe that the clocks for the ATI GUP is
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written in the modedb file that comes with the XFree2.0 package, so
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obtaining these should now be easy.
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Somebody wrote:
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From: kng@pt.com (Ken Gravenstede)
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Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 15:39:16 GMT
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Lines: 11
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Can someone send me the appropriate info to get X running on an
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ATI Ultra graphics card. In particular, what rev of the kernel,
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what rev of X386, and what frequency settings are necessary.
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Thanks
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Ken
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Marius Kjeldahl ( s_marius@ira.uka.de ) | Seeking organisation for my
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Student in Operational Research, Informatics, | dissertation and/or future
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Economics and Management at the Norwegian Inst. | employment - please "finger"
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of Technology/Univ. of Karlsruhe, Germany | for more information...
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From: koenig@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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Subject: Re: HELP! Help! AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!
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Date: 10 Nov 93 08:36:03 GMT
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What do you think about using a more specific subject line
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and a smaller .signature ?
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Harald
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--
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Harald Koenig, Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik (koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de)
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All SCSI disks will from now on be required to send an email
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notice 24 hours prior to complete hardware failure!
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From: 81239@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (ANDRE SCHR”TER INFORMATIK)
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Subject: Re: 1280x1024x256 Graphics @ > 70 Hz
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 07:20:28 GMT
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In article <koenig.752779994@ceres> koenig@ceres.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig) writes:
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>From: koenig@ceres.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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>Subject: Re: 1280x1024x256 Graphics @ > 70 Hz
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>Date: 8 Nov 93 17:33:14 GMT
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>In <2blr21$95i@unidus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> engels@darkstar () writes:
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>>I'm currently wondering why I can't get 1280x1024x256 with my Elsa Winner 1000
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>>(Local Bus, 2Mb) with >70Hz on an Eizo T560i Monitor without problems
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>>(what I got doesn't look like 70 Hz). I took the T560i timing data from Roell
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>>which I found in modeDB. There is an 110 and a 135 clock, but xfree uses the 110
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>>clock. If I delete the 110 lines, I get the message that 110 is the maximum value.
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>
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>>Maybe the idc..._slow clock is the solution. The #9-card seems to use (according to
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>>the AccelCards-file) the non-slow clock. But why, it also got an 928-chip?
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>>I'm still thinking and searching and maybe I find the solution in some hidden doc.
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>>But where,
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>>dear Harald, can I find this information in the Xfree-Howto (line numbers wellcomed)?
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>
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>You can read the answer in the ELSA manual:
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>both the clock synthesizer (ICD-2061A)
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>and the RAMDAC (Sierra 15025) have a spezified limit of 110MHz.
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>It migh be possible to drive them at higher frequencies
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>(ICD-2061A could run upto 120MHz but no more) but you risk to fry your card.
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>The sources are free, get them and modify at your own risk!
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>
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>Another solution would be buying a ELSA Winner2000 which is specified
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>up to 135MHz which is 1280*1024 @ 72Hz!
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>
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>Harald
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>--
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>Harald Koenig, Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik (koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de)
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> All SCSI disks will from now on be required to send an email
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> notice 24 hours prior to complete hardware failure!
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if you want to risk you'r card there might be another posibility:
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write the clocks you get on satrtup directly to the Xconfig. then edit the
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line 110 to somethin else and change the 135 to 110. i don't know if this
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is true for the s3 server, but you can fool the mach8 servre this way.
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andre
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From: mulet@mulet.algebr.uv.es ()
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Subject: Problem with CxPatch
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 08:48:00 GMT
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From: cpbaltus@cs.vu.nl (Stefan Baltus)
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Subject: lpd doesn't keep running
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:21:36 GMT
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Hi,
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I have problems with printing. When starting up lpd, it exits immediately. It
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doesn't keep running in the background! So, when 'lpq -Plp'-ing, it says
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Warning: no daemon present.
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What's wrong?
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Stefan.
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Stefan Baltus. InterNet: cpbaltus@cs.vu.nl
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UUCP : stefan@baljas.home.cs.vu.nl
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From: cwil4@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Craig Ashcroft Willmott )
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Subject: Re: SLOW comms with X problem
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:05:02 GMT
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Strike this... I think it's an IRQ rpoblem.
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Craig.
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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
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Subject: Re: Linux performance??
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:10:54 GMT
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In article <2bmah6$lj9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> bbfaus@wam.umd.edu (John E. Krokes) writes:
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>Linux runs significantly faster than DOS because it's a 32-bit OS that
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>doesn't have the constraints that DOS does. DOS was written over a decade
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>ago for machines that are nowhere near as powerful as a 486, and some
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>limits were hard-coded into the OS. Windows is just a messy DOS program,
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>subject to the same constraints as DOS. Linux will let you use the full
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>capacity of your machine as no Microsoft product can.
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Then how do you explain Unix being originally written over 20 years ago?
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8^)
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Linux is a faithful reproduction of Unix. I just wish the networking
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stuff was more stable. *SIGH*
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-greg
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Gregory A. Gulik Call Gagme, a public access
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greg@gagme.chi.il.us UNIX system at 312-282-8606
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|| gulik@rtsg.mot.com For information, send E-mail
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to info@gagme.chi.il.us
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From: buk@taz.de ($ Burkhard Kohl)
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Subject: Re: 0.99pl13 Kernel Compilation
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 12:34:00 GMT
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Reply-To: buk@taz.de
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In article lok@bigboote.WPI.EDU, joev@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joseph W. Vigneau) writes:
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>Ok. I ftp'd 0.99pl13 from tsx, read the READMEs, verified that I have gcc 2.4.5
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>(or whatever they wanted), and tryping to 'make dep' I get:
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>touch tools/version.h
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>for i in sound; do (cd $i && make dep) || exit; done
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> .... [ stuff deleted »
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>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -E -M *.c > .depend
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>In file included from loop.c:27:
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>blk.h:193: #error "unknown blk device"
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>In file included from sbpcd.c:175:
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>blk.h:193: #error "unknown blk device"
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>make[2]: *** [dep] Error 1
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>make[1]: *** [dep] Error 1
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>make: *** [depend] Error 1
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>The standard question applies: What do I do now? I configured it properly
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>(I think)...
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Well, complain to the author(s) of these files - you should find the
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email-address in the header. We had similar problems when compiling
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99pl12 which I duly reported to the author. The standard path to those
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two files should be
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/usr/src/linux/kernel/blk_dev/*.c
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Regarding your messages
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something has been changed compared to our problems.
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It looks like different configurations (with/without Soundsupport)
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are not handled properly.
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Tell your prob to the author since feedback is very important to detect
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hidden flaws in released kernel. Since I don't have the pl13 sources
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I can't advice you how to circumvent this prob.
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_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Burkhard Kohl
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_/ _/ _/ _/ buk@taz.de
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_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ die tageszeitung
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_/ _/ _/ _/ Germany
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_/ _/ _/ _/ 10969 Berlin Phone: +30-259-02-120
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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
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Subject: *** Upcoming removal of comp.os.linux ***
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Date: 10 Nov 1993 15:03:02 GMT
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******************* DO NOT POST TO COMP.OS.LINUX **********************
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Since the comp.os.linux.* groups were created on Aug 12, the
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moderator of news.announce.newgroups plans to remove comp.os.linux
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on November 11. Many sites have removed local posting for comp.os.linux.
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Also, many Linux gurus have stopped reading or posting to this group.
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Start using the comp.os.linux.* groups instead:
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comp.os.linux.announce
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Announcements important to the Linux community. (Moderated)
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comp.os.linux.admin Installing and administering Linux systems.
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comp.os.linux.development Ongoing work on the Linux operating system.
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comp.os.linux.help Questions and advice about Linux.
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comp.os.linux.misc Linux-specific topics not covered by other groups.
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If your site does not carry these newsgroups, then complain loudly
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to your news admin. Do NOT crosspost to comp.os.linux. News administrators,
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please mark comp.os.linux as "n" (no local posting) as recommended by
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the news.announce.newgroups moderator.
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This notice is being posted every 2 days. If you do not wish
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to read this notice, please add it to your kill file.
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--Dave
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Subject: Re: rsh bug ?
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From: volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Patrick J. Volkerding)
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Date: 10 Nov 93 14:42:48 -0600
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In article <1993Nov10.143016.28677@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> stub@pce60 () writes:
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>Hi !
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>
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>..when I rsh commands between my 2 LinuX boxes I notices some programs
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>complaining 'bout wrong pathes/directories...
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>I think the problem can be put in one line:
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> rsh nepal echo $\HOME $\PWD
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>which gives
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> / /home/yeti
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>as output...
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>(not really, as /home/yeti is linked back via NFS to my other machine and
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>the real output contains the expanded link...)
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>But $HOME should give /home/yeti (or my personal link)...
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>What's wrong, where should I search ?
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>bye
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> Ulf.
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The shadow rsh is buggy, as evidenced when you look in /usr/etc, and find
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"in.rshd" and "in.rshd.unsecure". The latter is the original shadow(?) rshd,
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and has MAJOR security holes, like:
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rshd 127.0.0.1 -l root "any command you like"
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works for ALL users. This horribly buggy version is still used in SLS.
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Anyway, I did some hacking to the source to make it more secure, but now
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it only works for users with no password. Kind of like boarding up a
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broken window, but it was about all I could do for it.
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The source as I left it is somewhere under /pub/linux on ftp.cdrom.com. If
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anyone has any luck fixing it, please let me know. It's quite short, but I
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just don't have the network programming know-how to make it work.
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So what do you guys think, should I just ditch the whole shadow thing like
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MCC does?
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---
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Patrick Volkerding
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volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
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** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
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The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
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to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
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Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
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You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via:
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Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
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nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux
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tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
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tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace
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The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993
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End of Linux-Activists Digest
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