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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 11:13:19 EST
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #515
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Linux-Development Digest #515, Volume #1 Wed, 2 Mar 94 11:13:19 EST
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Contents:
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Object-file formats (Wolfgang Brandt)
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Re: Help! GCC errors (Wolfgang Thiel)
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Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers
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Linux on a Notebook....
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Re: eth0: transmit timed out in PL15h (Peter Suetterlin)
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NCSA Mosaic 2.0 Complile Problem (Erik Petersen)
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Re: effectiveness of cache ram? (Henry A Worth)
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Re: LINUX FOR SUN (Gunnar Rønning)
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_doprnt under Linux... (Dan)
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Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers (Grant Edwards)
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Re: serial driver woes (Frank Lofaro)
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Re: ISDN support for Linux -> status ? (Matthias Urlichs)
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Re: _doprnt under Linux... (Alfred Longyear)
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Re: X & Viper (Harry Langenbacher)
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sslinux on mach 3.0 ? (Reinier Lolkema)
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Re: PLEASE use the GPL (Kai Petzke)
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Re: Motif for Linux: proposal (Nick Kline)
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From: ti6wb@tick.ti6.tu-harburg.de (Wolfgang Brandt)
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Subject: Object-file formats
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 08:33:25 GMT
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Reply-To: ti6wb@tick.ti6.tu-harburg.de (Wolfgang Brandt)
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Hi,
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I have two questions.
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1. Do you know a book that describes the various object-file formats e.g.
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coff, elf, omf etc.?
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2. Is there a document that describes the GNU object-file format?
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From: upsyf173@psydiff4.uni-bielefeld.de (Wolfgang Thiel)
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Subject: Re: Help! GCC errors
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:57:01 GMT
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us292121@bulldog.mmm.com (Dean Junk) writes:
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>I just upgraded to .99.15 kernel from .99.14 kernel along with the
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>following libraries:
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....
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>I am having the following problem compiling xmix:
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>/usr/lib/libgcc.sa(__libc.o): Definition of symbol __NEEDS_SHRLIB_libc_4 (multiply defined)
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>/usr/lib/libc.sa(__libc.o): Definition of symbol __NEEDS_SHRLIB_libc_4 (multiply defined)
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>make: *** [xmix] Error 1
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>
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>Do you have any ideas? I have everything else working great but this!
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No, I won't answer this. You should read the release notes when you install
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new libraries.
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Wolfgang Thiel
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From: mark@usenet.rpi.edu ()
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Subject: Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 01:20:30 GMT
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David Rapchun (rapchun@suicide.sdsu.edu) wrote:
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> [lame garbage deleted]
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STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM
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(original by David Parsons)
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I took exception to your recent _X_ post to ____comp.os.linux.development_.
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(newsgroup)
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___ email
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It was (check all that apply):
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___ lame.
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___ stupid.
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_X_ much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be capabbe.
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Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
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___ what you posted/said has been done before.
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ Not only that, it was also done better the last time.
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___ your post/letter was a pathetic imitation of ____________________.
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(net.personality)
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___ your post/mail originated on FidoNet.
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___ your post/mail originated on Delphi
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___ your post/mail originated from the anon service
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ you felt this gave you a license to be a 'tard
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ your stupidity will be reported to the admin@anon.penet.fi per
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the anon disclaimer under "inappropriate use"
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___ your post referred to the newsgroup as a Board, BBoard, BBS, or
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Notesfile.
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___ your post contained commercial advertising.
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THE FINE FOR THIS IS $20. Please remit immediately to:
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Usenet News
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Network Security & Standards Patrol
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3 Cielo Vista Terrace
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Monterey, CA 93940
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or your posting privileges will be cancelled.
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___ your post/letter contained numerous spelling errors.
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___ your post/letter contained multiple grammatical errors.
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___ YOUR POST CONTAINED EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION AND/OR PUNCTUATION!!!!!
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___ you posted a "newgroup" message without Leader Kibo's permission.
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___ you posted a "rmgroup" message without Bruce Becker's permission.
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___ your post/letter was an obvious forgery.
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ It was done clumsily.
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___ you have a lame login name.
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_X_ your machine has a stupid name.
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___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and added no new text.
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___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and only added ___ lines
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of text.
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___ you quoted an article in followup and only added the line "Me, too!!!"
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___ you predicted the "Imminent Death of the Net[tm]".
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___ you asked for replies via email because you "don't read this group".
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___ you flamed someone who has been around far longer than you.
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___ you flamed someone who is far more intelligent and witty than you.
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___ your lines are 80 columns wide or wider.
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___ you failed to check the "Followups-To:" line.
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_X_ your .sig is longer than four lines.
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ And your newsreader truncated it.
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_X_ your .sig is ridiculous because (check all that apply):
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___ you listed ___ snail mail address(es).
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(Mark only if above checked)
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___ you listed a nine-digit ZIP code.
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___ you listed ___ phone numbers for people to use in prank calls.
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___ you included a stupid disclaimer.
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(Mark only if above also)
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___ your pathetic attempt at being witty in the disclaimer failed.
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(Mark only if above also)
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___ Miserably.
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_X_ you included:
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(Mark all that apply)
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___ a stupid self-quote.
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___ a stupid quote from a net.nobody.
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___ a Rush Limbaugh quote.
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___ a Dan Quayle joke.
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___ a reference to Beavis & Butthead.
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_X_ lame ASCII graphic(s) (Choose all that apply):
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___ USS Enterprise
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___ Australia
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___ The Amiga logo
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___ Company logo
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(Mark only if above also)
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___ and you stated that you don't speak for your employer.
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___ Bicycle
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___ Bart Simpson
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_X_ Barney
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Furthermore:
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___ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of _________________.
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(newsgroup)
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___ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of the net.
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_X_ You are a loser.
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___ You must have spent your entire life in a skinner box to be this
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clueless.
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___ *plonk*
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___ This has been pointed out to you before.
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_X_ It is recommended that you:
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(Mark all that apply)
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___ stick to FidoNet and come back when you've grown up.
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___ find a volcano and throw yourself in.
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___ get a gun and shoot yourself.
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_X_ stop reading Usenet news and get a life.
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___ stop sending email and get a life.
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___ consume excrement.
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___ consume excrement and thus expire.
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Sorry, I was just waiting for a chance to use this...:)
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-Mark
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From: dev@hollywood.acsc.com ()
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Subject: Linux on a Notebook....
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 01:35:56 GMT
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Does Linux with XFree86 run on a Toshiba 1950CT notebook???
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Any help is appreciated.
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Cheers!
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DM
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dev@hollywood.acsc.com
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From: pit@lupo.kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin)
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Subject: Re: eth0: transmit timed out in PL15h
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 11:08:10 GMT
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Rene COUGNENC (rene@renux.frmug.fr.net) wrote:
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> Ce brave Peter Suetterlin ecrit:
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> > eth0: transmit timed out, TX status 0x9c, ISR 0x0
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> > eth0: Possible network cable problem?
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> > 486DX/2-66VL, 3com 503 Etherlink card, Slackware 1.1.0, PL15h
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> I have the same card in one of my two machines.
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> When there is a small network problem, like the Ethernet disconnected
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> during less than 1 second, the card seems to hang (not always), and I get
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> these messages.
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> I have to issue a COLD reboot to correct this.
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> No problem whith the Ne2000 clone plugged in my second machine...
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> But most of the time, it works fine.
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> --
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> linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux
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I talked to our Sysops and they told me there was some work going on
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with our Ethernet, so (hopefully) this was the reason. I'll keep an
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eye on it.
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Thanks,
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Peter
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---------------------- Peter 'PIT' Suetterlin -------------------
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| Kiepenheuer Institut | Sternfreunde | Planetarium Freiburg |
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| fuer Sonnenphysik | Breisgau e.V | |
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| 0761/3198-210 | 0761/71571 | 0761/276099 |
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-pit@lupo.kis.uni-freiburg.de---!! Hey, this is my linux box !!------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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From: erik@errant.north.net (Erik Petersen)
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Subject: NCSA Mosaic 2.0 Complile Problem
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 02:15:43 GMT
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I am having some trouble getting Mosaic 2.0 to compile of My Linux
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box with XFree86 2.0. The problem relates to libXm, or lack of it.
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What is lib Xm? Is it part of Motif? Do I need Motif to compile and
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use Mosaic 2.0??
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I would appreciate help from anyone who has gotten this to work. A
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makefile would be nice, or instructions on what I need to use it.
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Thanks in advance.
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--
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Erik Petersen erik@errant.north.net
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Errant on the Internet V 416.699.8959
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Toronto, ON Canada F 416.699.5902
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From: haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth)
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Subject: Re: effectiveness of cache ram?
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 01:40:33 GMT
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In article <2kojdv$ndb@zeus.achilles.org>, ajh@zeus.achilles.org (Andrew Hutton) writes:
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|> : There are many many things that are better than having more cache. I've
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|> : got a 486/33 board with 64k cache -- I used to have 486/33 256k and I
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|> : never missed it at all.....
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|> Try putting more than 8 megs on the board... For 32 megs you need 256K.
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Only a few, generally older, motherboards of questionable design require
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adding more cache to expand memory.
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In a recent issue of "Microtimes" (a silicon valley area tabloid and
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computer shopping mag), there was an article questioning the value
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of >64K cache. They quoted a report from some independent testing
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lab that found 60% of the motherboards they tested ran faster
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with external cache disabled (unfortunetly, there were no details
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of how they conducted the tests). Designing a good cache subsytem
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is not a trivial exercise, unfortunetly a lot of motherboad vendors
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appear to be more interested selling more SRAM's, then in making a few
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perform well (SRAM's are one of the few items on a motherboard with
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significant profit margin).
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--
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Henry Worth - haw30@eng.amdahl.com
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No, I don't speak for Amdahl... I'm not even sure I speak for myself.
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From: gunnarr@ifi.uio.no (Gunnar Rønning)
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Subject: Re: LINUX FOR SUN
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 11:39:56 GMT
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>>>>> "Ron" == Ron Smits <ron@draconia.hacktic.nl> writes:
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In article <2kvn74$c2@draconia.hacktic.nl> ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits) writes:
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Ron> : what will it cost?
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Ron> Alot of blood sweat and tears
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Probably, but there are an ongoing port to the 680x0 architechture
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--
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Gunnar Rønning (gunnarr@ifi.uio.no)
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#include <std.disclaimer>
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From: galpin@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: _doprnt under Linux...
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 00:49:53 GMT
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In porting an app to Linux, I discovered that Linux does not seem to
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have the "standard" UNIX _doprnt library function.. (this is with gcc).
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Is there an equivalent function that I could use?
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- Dan
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--
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******************************************************************************
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* Dan Galpin galpin@cats.ucsc.edu *
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******************************************************************************
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From: grante@hydro.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
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Subject: Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 00:47:28 GMT
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Peter Herweijer (pieterh@sci.kun.nl) wrote:
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: rapchun@suicide.sdsu.edu (David Rapchun) writes:
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: > [some silly question that he need not have asked if he'd taken the
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: > trouble to actually read the group instead of wasting other's time,
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: > followed by a particularly obnoxious .sig]
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: Your .sig is not only way too big, but utterly pathetic. What does it
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: represent? Subliminal messages or something? I hope nobody takes the
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: trouble to answer your question until you learn how to behave yourself.
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His sig (which is way obnoxious IMHO) is a picture of "Barney," who is
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a sickeningly sweet and mindless character from a children's TV show.
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AKA "The Purple Pedophile"
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I hate Barney, and I hate large sigs, so I assume that there is a
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special place in hell reserved for this sig. I also vote that we
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ignore him until he cleans up his act
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--
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Grant Edwards |Yow!
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Rosemount Inc. |BI-BI-BI-BI-BI-BI-BI
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grante@rosemount.com |
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From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro)
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Subject: Re: serial driver woes
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Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 08:34:26 GMT
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In article <2kud5g$lm7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gkm@tmn.com (Greg McGary) writes:
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>
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>* For some as yet unexplained reason, when I run the aforementioned
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> unreliable uucp receive transfers with lots of printk() debugging
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> turned on, the transfers become reliable and run at full speed
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> (betw. 1200-1300 bytes/sec. on a gzip'ed file at 14,400 bps
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> DCE->DCE). When I turn the debugging printk()s off, I get many
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> "tty65: input overrun" errors. This makes no sense to me, firstly
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> because printk() is relatively simple and fast, and secondly, if
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> anything, the printk()s should prolong the interrupt handler and
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> thereby *cause* more overrun errors. A worthwhile experiment would
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> be to replace the printk()s with short delay loops to see if its the
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> extra time that's significant, rather than something else peculiar
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> about calling printk().
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>
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I have heard about this paradoxical effect before (someone had LESS trouble
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had a higher speed than at a lower one). If you send, wait around long
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enough, and thus get to handle the UART while still in the interrupt driver,
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you save an extra call to the interrupt driver. Way less latency and less load.
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P.S. with a 16550A you should not be having problems like you describe.
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Try pl15h. It might help.
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From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
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Subject: Re: ISDN support for Linux -> status ?
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 14:39:23 +0100
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In comp.os.linux.development, article <2kv31g$1hp@inasys.inasys.uucp>,
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behe@inasys.uucp (Bernd Hentig) writes:
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> we're currently using a DOS router (KA9Q/PCROUTE/PAPI) to communicate
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> to the outside TCP/IP world and it works great.
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> However, since BSD386 began supporting ISDN drivers since Version 1.0,
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> I wonder whether this has already been done for Linux.
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Well, yes, my Linux system is using ISDN to talk to the Internet...
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Sources are in ftp.ira.uka.de:/pub/systems/linux/netbsd.
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German 1TR6 protocol and dumb cards only at this time.
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--
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I'm against group sex because I wouldn't know where to put my elbows.
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-- Martin Cruz Smith
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--
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Matthias Urlichs \ XLink-POP Nürnberg | EMail: urlichs@smurf.noris.de
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Schleiermacherstraße 12 \ Unix+Linux+Mac | Phone: ...please use email.
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90491 Nürnberg (Germany) \ Consulting+Networking+Programming+etc'ing 42
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Click <A HREF="http://smurf.noris.de/~urlichs/finger">here</A>.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Alfred Longyear)
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Subject: Re: _doprnt under Linux...
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:55:37 GMT
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galpin@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan) writes:
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>In porting an app to Linux, I discovered that Linux does not seem to
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>have the "standard" UNIX _doprnt library function.. (this is with gcc).
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>Is there an equivalent function that I could use?
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>- Dan
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Add this to the file and, you too, will have _doprnt() under any ANSI
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C compiler.
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#include <stdio.h>
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#define _doprnt(format,args,stream) vfprintf(stream,format,args)
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Or, perhaps a better alternative is to use the editor and change the program
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to be ANSI C compliant. Change the name and the order of the arguments.
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From: harry@brain.jpl.nasa.gov (Harry Langenbacher)
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Subject: Re: X & Viper
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 03:48:26 GMT
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In article <2kt3kl$81h@news.panix.com> brianc@myhost.subdomain.domain (Brian Cummings) writes:
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> Does anyone know if the XFree Viper project has reached color yet? :) I'm
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>anxious to see my victims in Netrek in their full-color :)
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>From: brianc@myhost.subdomain.domain (Brian Cummings)
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Where the hell is myhost.subdomain.domain (Brian Cummings) ???
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You can run 800x600 in 16 colors with an OAK vga-chip equipped viper using
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a slightly hacked freq program, and ChipSet "generic" and vga16 .
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I'll post some notes on how to do it if anyone's interested.
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Harry
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It gives us those _nice bright_ colors ... Gives us the _greens_ of summers
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Makes you think all the world's a _sunny_day_, oh yeah !!
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I got a _Nikon_ camera ... I love to take a _phot_o_graph_
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So Momma, don't taaaaake my Kodachrome away -- Paul Simon
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--
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H Langenbacher harry@brain.jpl.nasa.gov (818)354-9513
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Concurrent Processing Devices Group, Jet Propulsion Lab
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4800 Oak Grove Dr, Pasadena California 91109 USA
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From: reinier@zikzak.apana.org.au (Reinier Lolkema)
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Subject: sslinux on mach 3.0 ?
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 01:35:06 +1100
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Some time ago I read about a project to write a linux server for the mach
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microkernel. I think it was called sslinux (single server linux) and there
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was even a mention of a ftp site for an alpha version. Sadly I can't find
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this info back. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and has more info,
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please point me in the right direction as I am very interested in this
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project.
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--
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reinier@hagar.apana.org.au (Reinier Lolkema) 03-754-4567
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Hagar is a 486-DX50 running Linux 0.99pl13
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From: wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke)
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Subject: Re: PLEASE use the GPL
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Date: 2 Mar 94 12:30:38 GMT
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tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
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>Yeah, but you could make a license that is similar, but differs in those
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>areas where you think the GPL should be modified. The copyright on the
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>GPL covers its expression of the terms of the license, but it does not
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>cover those terms themselves.
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>The best way to do this would be to make a list of the rights, restrictions,
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>and obligations spelled out in the GPL. Delete those you don't want. Add
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>any new ones you want. Then give the list to a lawyer and tell him or her
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>to write a license agreement for you.
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If you only want to add or change a few things of the GPL in your case,
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you can also make a Copyright file, which says:
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1) This file/programme/whatever is Copyrighted by me. You can use/modify/
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bla/bla it under the terms of the GNU Copyleft Version 2.
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2) In exception to 1), you may not ...
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--
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Kai Petzke <wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de>
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Advertisement by Microsoft in a well-known German magazine:
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If you don't like our programmes, then make your own ones.
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However, they expect you to use Microsoft products for this -:)
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From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
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Subject: Re: Motif for Linux: proposal
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Date: 1 Mar 1994 21:04:03 -0700
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In article <EA4LB6HL@math.fu-berlin.de>, <mvalente@draco.lnec.pt> wrote:
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>
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>
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> Yo:
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>
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> Sometime ago there was someone proposing to go ahead with
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> the creation of a Motif lookalike/compatible library.
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>
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> I though it was a neat idea at the time, but took no notice
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> of it. I thought that a real Motif would come out Real Soon
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> Now.
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>
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> Everyone knows I was wrong :-): since then some Motif
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> implementations for Linux have appeared always for some
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> price ( though not for much, we must agree ). It seems that
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> this will always be the case, because of licensing costs from
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> OSF.
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>
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> Together with the polemics surrounding OSF royalties/runtime
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> schemes I got to think about the aforementioned proposal.
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>
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>
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> Did it go through ? Has work started on it ? I saw some
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> references to NOTIF, but no real info ? At the time the proposal
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> was made I volunteered but got no reply.
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>
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this was two weeks ago. is it still being worked on?
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-nick
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