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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 17:13:52 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #747
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Linux-Misc Digest #747, Volume #2 Mon, 12 Sep 94 17:13:52 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Alan Cox)
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What is a BogoMIP? (Thomas L. Fors)
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Re: Virus checker software for Linux. (Alan Cox)
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Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support (Alan Cox)
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Re: Smallest Linux Distribution (John Verzani)
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Mosaic doesn't work?! (Kenneth Holmlund)
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Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's (Lasermoon Info Desk)
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Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (J.J. Paijmans)
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Spea V7 Mercury 64 PCI (Riza the Great)
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Re: DOOM linux with TERM (Damian Frank)
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Re: Virus checker software for Linux. (Corey Brenner)
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Re: Ultrastore 34F vs Adaptec 1542CF (Dragon Fly)
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Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Jim Goddard)
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Re: DTC SCSI driver for Linux? (Colin J. Dunn)
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Time Screws up w/ Linux (Vaughn Adams)
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Re: What is a BogoMIP? (Greg Cisko)
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Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Miguel de Icaza)
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Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses? (Kai Petzke)
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Crossposted-To: biz.config
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 16:19:09 GMT
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In article <34sqeo$hd6@kelly.teleport.com> spire@teleport.com (Steve Wicke) writes:
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>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux is
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>that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for
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>professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is
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>commercial and people on the net (including myself) have a tendacy to be
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>a little snide towards commercial posts in non commercial areas. I would
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Well I'd certain back the idea.
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: tfors@MCS.COM (Thomas L. Fors)
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Subject: What is a BogoMIP?
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 09:45:14 -0500
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I am brand new to Linux (just installed it this weekend) and was wondering what the heck a BogoMIP is? I couldn't find an answer to this anywhere else.
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Thanks.
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Thomas L. Fors
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tfors@mcs.com
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Virus checker software for Linux.
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 16:06:49 GMT
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In article <INN_needs_a_client_M-ID_15859@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com> jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) writes:
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>With other Uni*es, they have usually been owned by companies/universities
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>who have MONEY - and therefore had heaps of disk/resources to spare - so
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>it's quite practical to compile all your own stuff. Try compiling
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>XFree-2.2.1 on a 120Mb HDD :-) It just isn't practical to compile
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>everything yourself on such "boutique" systems as most of us own.
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>
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>Me, I'm happy to accept the risk, as we have seen with the likes of wuftp
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>- you can't even trust source code these days...
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>
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I'm going to start signing the Net-Tools stuff with PGP. I'd like to urge
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the other main developers like Xfree86, Florian, the Debian people etc
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to do the same.
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 16:15:07 GMT
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In article <CvvtAu.4vq@pell.com> orc@pell.com (Orc) writes:
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>In article <1994Sep8.142206.18896@cs.cornell.edu>,
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>Matt Welsh <mdw@cs.cornell.edu> wrote:
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>>RMS's idea (which I have heard first-hand) is that Linux systems
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>>should be considered GNU systems with Linux as the kernel.
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> Well, that certainly puts a new twist on the GPL. An unpleasant
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>one; GPLing things makes them part of the GNU project.
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Chuckle.. poor Mr Stallman I guess the Linux community will have to absorb
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him rather than the reverse.
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>>Why shouldn't GNU receive recognition for this?
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> No reason. But since my first interpretation of RMS's idea is
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>that the FSF will take credit for work they've not done, it seems
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>like it's not the most politic way to ask for recognition.
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RMS is RMS. He can think what he likes. Do you think anyone cares ? I don't
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see what the difference between GNU using Linux and anyone else using Linux
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is apart from its more good publicity for us and makes their hurd project
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look rather silly 8)
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: verzani@ionesco.math.washington.edu (John Verzani)
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Subject: Re: Smallest Linux Distribution
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:17:20 GMT
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A really small Linux distribution that has a minimal amount of basics is
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the Milieu distribution at tsx-11.mit.edu in
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pub/linux/packages/TeX/Milieu. It doesn't have nearly the overhead that the
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larger distributions do which can be a blessing or a curse, but certainly
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will teach you about UNIX as you go along.
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John
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From: holmlund@minerva.tp.umu.se (Kenneth Holmlund)
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Subject: Mosaic doesn't work?!
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:49:42 GMT
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Reply-To: holmlund@tp.umu.se
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I have just fetched mosaic2.4 from sunsite but it doesn't
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work properly. The window pops up but goes away immediately
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and the stderr shows a message that "Connect" wasn't found.
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What's the problem ?
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Please answer by email since this probably is a FAQ that
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other readers are bored with...
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Thanks,
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Kenneth Holmlund
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From: info@lasermoon.co.uk (Lasermoon Info Desk)
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Subject: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 21:44:41 GMT
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Linux Recognition by Major Magazine
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PC-PLUS, is the first of UK's leading PC magazines to give Linux the
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recognition it deserves and is not only devoting editorial space but, in
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conjunction with Lasermoon Ltd, is also :
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+++ including a copy of Slackware 2.0 on the Front-Cover CD-ROM +++
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The CD-ROM will appear on almost 40,000 copies!!! which for the price of
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the magazine probably represents the biggest ultra low-cost release of
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Linux anywhere in the world.
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PC-PLUS are to be congratulated for being the first Major to recognise
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the importance of Linux and also for including it on the CD-ROM.
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To celibrate this, Lasermoon will give a discount of 10% off the UK
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price of the Slackware Professional 2.0 package to anyone who can tell
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us the page number of the Linux article or the CD-ROM description in
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PC-PLUS. This offer will probably be canceled in the event that some
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enterprising individual posts the page numbers :-)
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Lasermoon Ltd, PC-PLUS
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2a Beaconsfield Road, Beauford Court
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Fareham, 30 Monmouth Street
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Hants, Bath
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England. Avon, England
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PO16 0QB BA1 2BW
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Voice : +44 (0) 329 826444 Voice : +44 (0) 225 442244
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Fax : +44 (0) 329 825936 Fax : +44 (0) 225 462098
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email : info@lasermoon.co.uk email : pcplus@cix.compulink.co.uk
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Other than assisting with the Linux CD-ROM, Lasermoon have no other
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relationship with PC-Plus whatsoever.
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--
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Info Desk - info@lasermoon.co.uk
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Lasermoon Ltd, 2a Beaconsfield Road, Fareham, Hants, England. PO16 0QB
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Voice +44 (0) 329 826444 Fax: +44 (0) 329 825936
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+++ The UNIX & Linux Freeware Specialists! +++
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From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
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Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:11:47 GMT
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In article <1994Sep12.072748.21256@imec.be> buytaert@imec.be (Steven Buytaert) writes:
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...
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> Don't worry Paai,
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>
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> As I've read the doom announcement today, I learned a new expression
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> and this guy fits the bill perfectly.
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>
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> "He sucks demon phalluses"
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>
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> Had to get that of my chest...
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>
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> [BTW, cleaned up the newsgroup line]
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>
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> Stef
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>
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>--
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>Steven Buytaert
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Yes: I saw that one too. The meaning is clear, but a sound translation
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in dutch till now escaped me "...hij pijpt duivelspikken..." No,
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one way or another it doesn't sound right.
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I *like* to suck glasses of "Duvels" though. :-)
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Paai.
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--
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Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
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gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
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oorspronkelijk is geplaatst. Nothing of the above may be cited
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outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
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From: che5ari@sun.leeds.ac.uk (Riza the Great)
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Subject: Spea V7 Mercury 64 PCI
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 18:26:45 +0100 (BST)
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Does anyone have the Spea V7 Mercury 64 PCI (2Meg) working with the
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current version of XFree86 and linux.
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Thanks in advance.
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--
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=================================================================
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Ahmed Riza
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Department of Chemical Engineering
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University of Leeds LS2 9JT
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A.Riza@leeds.ac.uk
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=================================================================
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------------------------------
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From: damianf@wpi.edu (Damian Frank)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: DOOM linux with TERM
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:33:08 GMT
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Reply-To: damianf@wpi.edu
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Alan Cox (iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk) wrote:
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: In article <CvvKLp.CzC@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> mdrejhon@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Mark Rejhon) writes:
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: >TIA is a program that you run on the remote shell account to emulate a
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: >SLIP / PPP server. You simply run your Linux/unix/DOS/Windows SLIP/PPP
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: >software on your local end.
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: >It supports TCP and UDP (not ICMP). I hear that Linux DOOM uses only
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: >TCP and/or UDP so it should work with TIA. You can have a free
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: >trial of TIA. Get documents from FTP or WWW at marketplace.com ....
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: Why not just use TERM which is free.
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Because for something to work with term, it has to be recompiled. Now,
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since Dave Taylor didn't release the source (who can blame him?) *we* can't
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do this, and I kinda doubt that he'll go through the effort merely for term.
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Personally, I'd never heard of TIA, but it sounded quite nifty to me.
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--
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============================================================================
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Damian Frank "Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and
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damianf@wpi.edu what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't.
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You cannot shirk this and be a man." -Mark Twain
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From: brennerc@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Corey Brenner)
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Subject: Re: Virus checker software for Linux.
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:59:32 GMT
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Phillip Hardy (phillip@mserve.kiwi.gen.nz) wrote:
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: bjorn@oslonett.no wrote:
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: : In article <34hdpf$s9g@trane.uninett.no> hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
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: : >I'm pretty laid-back about the threat of Unix viruses.
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: : 8<--------------->8
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: : Would be nice to have a way to check diskettes for boot viruses, though.
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: : They coldn't do any real harm under Un*x, I guess, but they could
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: : keep spreading .. and I don't want to keep DOS around just for that !
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: Errr
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: Hay guys.
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: Think... lets take for an example this idear...
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: ok.
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: virus spreads on boot floppys.
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: when the key gets of 0x0ff it then
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: looks at say 0xff00 and takes a byte.
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: now it writes this byte to sector 0, head 0, Cyl 0... etc etc.
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: and just keeps going till say sec 17, Head 4, Cyl 600
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: Now how do you expect to be protected from that???
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: some ppl do run dos and linux...
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: so it is possable for this to happen...
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: So if you run dos/linux/sco etc.
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: best bet is to run someting like scan in your dos side.
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: (i run a dos virus checker on my other box...)
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: Just my 2.5c worth...
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: Phill.
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also, if one were to make a good bbs on Linux and were to serve a DOS-based
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community with that bbs, a good virus scanner would be a definite bonus.
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(especially for the DOSabled).
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Corey Brenner
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From: sviznyuk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dragon Fly)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Ultrastore 34F vs Adaptec 1542CF
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:56:35 GMT
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In article <34vs07$2b7@nntp.stanford.edu>,
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Robert Ashcroft <rna@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
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>
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>How do these two boards compare for ease of setup, use, etc with Linux?
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Never used/owned 1542CF. I have U34F and never had any (I mean
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absolutely any) problems with it running Linux. You just have to set
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right I/O address (340 as far as I remember) with on-board jumpers.
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The default 330 won't work.
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>The 34F is a VLB board, the 1542 is ISA. Does that mean you get DMA
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>above 16MB on the 34F?
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Don't know.
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>I noticed something about manually having to give the disk dimensions
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>in the case of the 34F while reading the SCSI HOWTO.
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Bullshit. The only thing you need to set in U34F is I/O address.
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>I know that Ultrastore has gone bankrupt.
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Ah yeah ? I see there are a lot of Ultrastor controllers for sale
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in Computer Shopper.. What a pity. U-s looked like good company.
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>Any comments about the advisability of swapping out my 1542 for a 34F?
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I have heard 1542 is good too. Do not know how does it compare to U34F.
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>Finally, if I were to do so, would the 34F need to read the data on
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>my harddisk as it stands, or would I have to do a backup of everything
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>first and then load stuff back on?
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>
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>(of course I make backups anyway, but I'd rather not have to reload
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>Linux...)
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Hmm.. I don't get it. I'm running Linux with U34F for a year already
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without making any backups (stupid I know), except boot diskettes.
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U34F is pretty expensive though..
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Cordially,
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Serge
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From: jgoddard@batman.rd.qms.com (Jim Goddard)
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Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:51:23 GMT
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Ian Jackson (ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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[deletion]
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: Some even don't come with copyright notices and permission statements
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: at all, which means that all the users who download and use the
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: program in question are in violation of the author's copyright !
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[more deletion]
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: * Code which does not carry a copyright notice is _not_ public domain,
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: and people may _not_ do what they want with it. In fact, in the
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: absence of a statement saying what they may do or an explicit notice
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: saying the code is in the public domain they may not do _anything_
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: with it !
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[even more deletion]
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Have to disagree with you on these two Ian. If the code does not
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contain a copyright notice it is not copyrighted and you can use it at
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will. However the author has not lost the right to copyright the work.
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To copyright the work after releaseing it without a copyright notice
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the author has to notify the recipients. I.E. if you use it, you can't
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be sued (thats not quite acurate you can be sued for anything) unless
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you are notified that you are in copyright violation and given a chance
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to stop first.
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I don't claim to be an expert on the subject but I have reistered
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copyrights before and the above is MY INTERPRETATION of the copyright
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documentation provided by the Library of Congress.
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Jim
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From: dunnc@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Colin J. Dunn)
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Subject: Re: DTC SCSI driver for Linux?
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Date: 12 Sep 94 15:02:48 GMT
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mwe@dfw.net writes:
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>DTC make a slew of controllers; you need to give a model#/name/type/etc.
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>the one sitting in a machine next to me works fine with Linux.
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> (although, i will admit that it's using "aha1452-emulation" to do it...)
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The last I read the Linux SCSI how-to, it said that the DTC controllers
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with AHA1542 emulation will work in Linux, as a clone of the AHA1542.
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But other DTC models that lack this emulation (such as the 3270 VL-bus
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controller) absolutely will not work in Linux, as DTC only provides
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programming information under non-disclosure (same problem as with
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Diamond video cards).
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I had to return a DTC 3270 card I bought because it was not supported
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under anything but DOS/Windows, and "upgrade" to an Adaptec 1522.
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The Adaptec 1522 (not 1542) was slower than the DTC 3270, but works
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in OS/2 (and supposedly Linux as well, though I haven't had the
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opportunity to try it yet).
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--
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Colin Joseph Dunn (TeamOS2)
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dunnc@ucsub.colorado.edu
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.. Economists do it at bliss point.
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From: adamsvm@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Vaughn Adams)
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Subject: Time Screws up w/ Linux
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 11:06:03 -0400
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I have had this problem for a while and never bothered to resolve it.
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Now that I need cron, I need to get it fixd. Everytime I boot Linux, my i
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clock screws up. THe time is always off, but the date is ok. This doesn't
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happen with any other OS that I have run on the computer. I am runnin
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Slackware 1.2 with a couple of dirrerent kernels. it seems to be kernel
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independant.
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Any response would be appreciated.
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Vaughn "V1nce" Adams
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adamsvm@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
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From: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (Greg Cisko)
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Subject: Re: What is a BogoMIP?
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:09:35 GMT
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Reply-To: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov
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In article rkq@Venus.mcs.com, tfors@MCS.COM (Thomas L. Fors) writes:
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> I am brand new to Linux (just installed it this weekend) and was wondering what the heck a BogoMIP is? I couldn't find an answer to this anywhere else.
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I would suggest reading the document BogoMips on sunsite.unc.edu. In short though,
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it is a number that doesn't mean very much in a multi-user system.
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>
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> Thanks.
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>
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> Thomas L. Fors
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> tfors@mcs.com
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>
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From: miguel@sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza)
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Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:29:39 GMT
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> Almost completely unplayable on a 386/40/8. Runs 'way too slow, and _that_
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> is at 320x200. Video card is an OTI-087, using an experimental accel
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> driver that speeds everything else up ...
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DOOM seemed slow when running on a 486/33. I don't have a sound card,
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but as soon as I removed the sndserver from the .doomrc, the speed of
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the program ran much faster, maybe because it was trying to use a non
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existant sound device.
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Hope this help,
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Miguel.
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From: wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses?
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Date: 12 Sep 94 15:09:09 GMT
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jamesd@teleport.com (James Deibele) writes:
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>Console output under Linux was very quick and I'm sure X performance is
|
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>pretty good. But curses performance is a little sluggish and adding
|
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>lines near the bottom of the screen is a real killer - curses seems to
|
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>clear the screen with blank lines <then> adds the new text.
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||
|
||
What do you mean? Elvis performance under X or elvis performance on
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console or curses performance under X/console?
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|
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Elvis does not use curses, it has its own terminal interface. This is
|
||
*very* fast on Linux the console. However, in an X-Term, scrolling is
|
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very slow when you do not have accelerated video, and that affects the
|
||
insertion and deletion of lines with elvis.
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Kai
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--
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Kai Petzke | How fast can computers get?
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Technical University of Berlin |
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Berlin, Germany | Sol 9, of course, on Star Trek.
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wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de |
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